I agree. I have had to design a system using dry valves in parallel to reduce 
the friction lost through the valves.

Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP 
Sales Engineer 
Alliance Fire Protection 
*Licensed in KS & MO 

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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of George Church
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 12:44 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Strange piping arrangement

Jeez I feel like I should be 20 yrs older for campfire stories.

Back before there were 8" dry-pipe valves, we'd routinely tee to a pair and
then bring em back together, usually with 8" but if this was a BIG system,
then 10" wouldn't cause us to bat an eye.

As for design criteria, would have been completely up to what was out there
and what insurance carrier might have been involved, what AE firm, etc.
And either everyone else seemed to know what they were doing on jobs of that
nature, or I was still clueless and didn't know myself. But in general, FM
or FIA/OIA/IRI or similar HPR carrier would know what to tell us to do.
Working at ASCOA, if they didn't our SH contract reps, who generally handled
these, were top flight.

glc

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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Phelps, Mark
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 1:11 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Strange piping arrangement

and/or it could be for maximum reliability. Complete redundency for valve
failure.
Mark at Aero 

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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org]on Behalf Of Chris
Cahill
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 11:01 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Strange piping arrangement


'cuz they don't/didn't make a 10" PA valve?  Couldn't take the friction
losses with 1-8"?  SWAG...  

Chris Cahill, P.E.
Fire Protection Engineer
Sentry Fire Protection, Inc.
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