I would say everything is good. You have 2 scenario's there. If you use 
8.6.5.1.2 (1) you are spacing the sprinklers so that the beam, in reality, is 
not an obstruction. You can then perhaps pretend it's not there, then continue 
with your standard spacing (15'). If you use 8.6.5.1.2 (2) then you are 
arranging the sprinklers on each side of the obstruction to share the 
responsibility off covering under it.

Thanks,
Eric Tysinger CET
NICET 108988
Designer
Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers, Inc.
4370 Motorsport Drive
Concord, NC 28027
p: (704)782-3032
f: (704)795-6838
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Matt Grise
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:43 PM
To: 'sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org'
Subject: RE: Beam obstruction rules

What is the FPE's argument against it?

Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP
Sales Engineer
Alliance Fire Protection
*Licensed in KS & MO

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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Cliff Whitfield
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:40 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Beam obstruction rules

Forum,

I have a question regarding beam obstruction rules for standard spray uprights.

I have a light hazard project that has 15" deep beams.  The first beam is 9'
from the wall and the next beam is 17' away from beam #1.  If I space my first 
head 5' away from beam #1 so that it is not an obstruction (per table 
8.6.5.1.2-NFPA 13, 2007 ed), can my next head be 15' from head #1?  This is not 
supposed to be a trick question but I have a disagreement with an FPE on this.

Thanks for your insight on this one.

Cliff Whitfield, SET
President
Fire Design, Inc.

cl...@fire-design.com
www.fire-design.com

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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of George Church
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:01 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: L'il Abner-Mattress Tester

Back in 2007 the CPSC required a fire-resistant outer (fabric) shell on all 
mattresses and box springs for sale in the USA.

Is anyone familiar with this to be able to tell if this reduces the hazardous 
classification of the foam when stored in a retail store stockroom to 12' high? 
Stored on floor, flat, as if prepared for a princess and a pea.

Owner would prefer not to take .2/1500 to .6 for obvious reasons, one being 
tenant fitout of a portion of an existing retail center.

George Church
Rowe Sprinkler


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