>From 24 to 42 square feet of floor (the floor is where we design for the fire starting)-- does this floor space require a thousand or two square feet of sprinklers? -----Original Message----- From: Matthew J. Willis [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: partial walls in mech rooms
? Matthew J. Willis Automatic Fire Sprinklers Norred Fire Systems L.L.C. 318-387-1134 Voice 318-816-1087 Mobile 318-387-1163 Facsimile [email protected] > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] [mailto:sprinklerforum- > >[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brad Casterline > >Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:10 AM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: RE: partial walls in mech rooms > > > >I cannot get past the idea that we normally put water on floors, not on > >the > >tops of ceilings! > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Greg McGahan [mailto:[email protected]] > >Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:00 AM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: partial walls in mech rooms > > > >It is not CLEAR, this section appears to refer to the "cloud" situation > >we > >are often running into. > > > >I am not trying to get out of something here, I am trying to document why > >we > >have to do it. We have used the 15' rule in the past, but again, that is > >truly intended for another situation, in my honest opinion. This section > >is > >to avoid fusing heads in adjacent areas, not require additional > >protection... as I read it. > > > >On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Morey, Mike <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On second reading, if you're saying the LH areas have a ceiling but the > >> mechanical rooms don't then 8.15.22 does apply, in which case the > >higher > >> area is the roof deck, which means you provide the protection for the > >> mechanical room at the deck and for 24' in any direction away from the > >> mechanical room over the ceiling of the LH space. > >> > >> -Mike Morey, SET > >> Sprinkler Designer > >> BMW Constructors, Inc. > >> office: 317-651-0596 > >> mobile: 317-439-2695 > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> From: [email protected] on behalf of Greg > >McGahan > >> Sent: Thu 3/10/2011 10:21 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: partial walls in mech rooms > >> > >> > >> > >> We have an issue right now with a light hazard non-combustible building > >in > >> which there are multiple small mechanical rooms -3' x 8' or 6' x 7' in > >> general size. The architect was vague so the GC is not putting in > >ceilings > >> nor is he running the walls up to the deck. > >> > >> I have been reading and rereading chapter 8 of 13 -2010 edition, and I > >> cannot conclusively determine what we are required to do in this case. > >The > >> description in 8.15.22.1 is not exactly correct so I can't see > >clearly... > >> > >> Does anybody have a cut and dry answer? > >> Thanks, > >> Greg > >> > >> -- > >> Greg McGahan > >> Living Water Fire Protection, LLC > >> 1160 McKenzie Road > >> Cantonment, FL 32533 > >> 850-937-1850 > >> fax 850-937-1852 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sprinklerforum mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >> > >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:Sprinklerforum- > >[email protected] > >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sprinklerforum mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >> > >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:Sprinklerforum- > >[email protected] > >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >> > > > > > > > >-- > >Greg McGahan > >Living Water Fire Protection, LLC > >1160 McKenzie Road > >Cantonment, FL 32533 > >850-937-1850 > >fax 850-937-1852 > >_______________________________________________ > >Sprinklerforum mailing list > >[email protected] > >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Sprinklerforum mailing list > >[email protected] > >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3493 - Release Date: 03/10/11 > >01:34:00 _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
