Actually with a strict adherence to the rules (not saying good juju) the upright protection at the ceiling is all that is required. According to an informal interp generated because of a similar situation with ductwork the rule is a one inch separation between ducts less the four wide is sufficient to only require protection above. I wouldn't do it, And these are not ducts but I see no difference except in depth of the metal panels. Maybe a Committee member needs to look at this.
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:22 AM, George Church <[email protected]>wrote: > Since the I Beams above will be exposed to heat rising past the panels, the > only way to protect their integrity would be to provide protection below the > concrete deck up high. > The engineer must have a lot higher confidence level in the ability of > sprinklers to activate and control a fire than either I - or the 13 TC- > would have. > Here's where we revert to the Advise the Engineer in writing that you > disagree and will install as directed, held harmless from the results of not > installing sprinklers at the high roof. > Perhaps the BCO or FCO could become you r best friend in setting the > requirements as prescribed by 13? > > George L. Church, Jr., CET > Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. > PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842 > 877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax > [email protected] > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Bobby Gillett > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:40 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Architectural Panels > > We have an area with Architectural Panels (aluminum) hanging from the > ceiling at 12'-0 above finish floor; the building is concrete deck on I-beam > construction w/the top of steel at 17'-4. The panels vary in length and > width - most of them are 3'-0 wide and less with length ranging from 8'-0 > and less. There are two rows of them hung together with soffit going around > the perimeter of the area; there is a 1'-0 space between them in all > directions including between them and the soffit. The bottom of the soffit > is even with the panels (12'-0 AFF) the architectural plan is saying it is > 40% open. The engineer wants the pipe hung above the panels and has chrome > pendent's coming down in the 1'-0 spaces between the panels with the > deflector just below the panel (approx. 11'-11) and is saying uprights are > not required. > > > > Wouldn't uprights still be required above the panels? Wouldn't the > pendent's need to be in the architectural panels, not in the 1'-0 open space > between them? > > > > Thank you, > > > > Bobby Gillett > > Sr. Project Manager > > Key Fire Protection, Inc. > > (731) 424-0130 office (731) 424-9285 fax > > (731) 267-4853 cell > > <http://www.keyfireprotection.com> www.keyfireprotection.com > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/attachments/20111011/7051805e/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. Yakima Ave. Tacoma, WA 98405 [email protected] http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ 253.680.7346 253.576.9700 (cell) Member: ASEE, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA, AFAA, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/attachments/20111011/98f8550f/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
