Are you talking about hoist rooms, hydraulic pump rooms, or the shaft? On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Brian Harris <[email protected]>wrote:
> Jim- > Thanks for the input, does make sense. Have you ever ran across that > situation where the line running into the room needs to be dry? > > Brian Harris, CET > FDFP Inc. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:09 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Solenoid Detail > > Brian, > > I was once told by an elevator inspector and another consultant in > California that they preferred having elevator power shut off (shunt trip) > by heat detectors rated at less than sprinkler operation because it > minimizes the chance of accidental shutdown due to waterflow surges, > testing, etc. It made sense to me. > > Since that time it has saved a lot of trouble. > > Jim > > > James L (Jim) Roberts, PE/SET |FLUOR|Director-Fire Protection Engineering| > Central Operations-Building Systems Dept|[email protected]|IODC > 20.5149 > |864.281.5149|Int-001.864.281.5149| > > > > From: "Brian Harris" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 10/12/2011 08:53 AM > Subject: RE: Solenoid Detail > Sent by: [email protected] > > > > Understood, however I've seen it used before for this application, right or > wrong. Reading through NFPA-72 seems like the preferred method is a flow > switch that shuts off power instead. Just curious what other people use > when > the owner doesn't want any water in the pipe inside the room unless the > heat > detector trips if you can't use a solenoid? > > Brian Harris, CET > FDFP Inc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sal Izzo > (TECH- 103) > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 8:50 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Solenoid Detail > > A solenoid valve by itself is not listed or approved as a controllong valve > for sprinkler systems. They are listed for fire protection service as a > releasing device for deluge valves used for deluge or preaction > applications. It may be used as such when integrally installed as part of > an > assembly meeting the deluge valve laboratory standards. > > Regards, > Salvatore Izzo, P.E. > Manager-Reliable Technical Services > > Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (www.nitrodesk.com) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Harris [[email protected]] > Received: Wednesday, 12 Oct 2011, 8:41am > To: [email protected] [[email protected]] > Subject: Solenoid Detail > > Does anybody have a nice detail of a solenoid (pre-action) detail used in > elevator equipment rooms they'd be interested in sharing? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Brian Harris, CET > > First Defense Fire Protection > > 11957 Ramah Church Road > > Huntersville, NC 28078 > > Phone: 704.948.3506 > > Fax: 704.948.3507 > > > > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18060) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > < > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/attachment > s/20111012/f3ade0db/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > < > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/attachment > s/20111012/46c8cf23/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18060) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= > > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18060) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. 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