Good to see so many "qualified" individuals out there putting out such quality 
work.............

Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection 
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
Spartanburg, SCĀ  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
CH2MHILL Extension  74102
[email protected]



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Williams
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Occupancy Classification

And I just got a set of plans and specs this morning calling for 0.16/1500 in 
the OH areas. "Let's do the Time Warp again!"


At 08:59 PM 3/13/2012, you wrote:
>You weren't drinking enough back then Roland. I remember six curves for OH.
>
>On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Dale Wingard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I started in '85 so I used them for awhile.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Bob
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:20 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Occupancy Classification
>>
>> Good call.  I'd forgotten, I started in 95 so I never used the old
>> densities
>> except for times like this.
>>
>> Bob Knight, CET III
>> 208-318-3057
>> www.firebyknight.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dale Wingard [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:14 PM
>> To: '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'
>> Subject: RE: Occupancy Classification
>>
>> If you go back to the '89 edition of 13 you will find that .16/1500 was the
>> density of Ord Gp I.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bob
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:06 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Occupancy Classification
>>
>> It's more like a kitchen, and as far as the .16, that's what the only
>> available sprinkler plans show the existing density to be.  I don't know
>> where it was derived from.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bob Knight, CET III
>> 208-318-3057
>> www.firebyknight.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 2:59 PM
>> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Occupancy Classification
>>
>> I'd be hesitant on assigning a classification on something like that
>> without
>> more info OR you pick a classification based on what you know and
>> extensively qualify it on your design documents.  If they are testing for
>> taste I'd assume they are cooking, are they baking, frying, boiling or
>> ??????????  Is it more like a kitchen than a "lab" with areas similar to a
>> greenhouse?
>>
>> .16 where did that come from?
>>
>> Craig L. Prahl, CET
>> Fire Protection
>> CH2MHILL
>> Lockwood Greene
>> 1500 International Drive
>> Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
>> Direct - 864.599.4102
>> Fax - 864.599.8439
>> CH2MHILL Extension  74102
>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bob
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:55 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Occupancy Classification
>>
>> I don't have much in the way of additional info, but they pot and incubate
>> potato plants and dehydrate the potatoes as well.  The only available
>> sprinkler info on the existing system is a that the original system was
>> calculated with a .16 / 1500.  No additional info beyond this.
>>
>> Bob Knight, CET III
>> 208-318-3057
>> www.firebyknight.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 1:51 PM
>> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Occupancy Classification
>>
>> Is it just taste testing?  Do you have any specific information on the
>> processes involved?
>>
>> Craig L. Prahl, CET
>> Fire Protection
>> CH2MHILL
>> Lockwood Greene
>> 1500 International Drive
>> Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
>> Direct - 864.599.4102
>> Fax - 864.599.8439
>> CH2MHILL Extension  74102
>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bob
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:39 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Occupancy Classification
>>
>> I have a facility that tests potatoes for flavor, texture, etc...  This
>> particular use will be inside an existing facility where they are adding
>> walls and a mezzanine to create two small labs.  Neither level will be over
>> 1,100 sf with 8'6" ceilings.   I'm thinking that it needs to be classified
>> as OH 1 having a similar function as to a "Dairy products manufacturing and
>> processing" facility.  This is based on the Annex of NFPA 13, 2010 ed.,
>> A.5.3.1.  Would anyone think that this should be classified differently?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bob Knight, CET III
>> 208-318-3057
>> www.firebyknight.com
>>
>>
>>
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