The owner, AHJ, and insurance company had a code variance all worked out before 
I got there.

I agree that the wash bay probably should have had sprinklers. If a car caught 
on fire in there, I doubt that 'spot-free rinse' would put it out.

Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP, NICET II  
Sales Engineer 
Alliance Fire Protection 
130 w 9th Ave.
North Kansas City, MO 64116

*Licensed in KS & MO 

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913.888.0618 f 
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg 
McGahan
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 2:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Heads in Car Wash

We did a county garage and were required to protect the car wash bay. I could 
not find  way out of it....

Greg


On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Cahill, Christopher <[email protected]>wrote:

> In a BUILDING that requires sprinkler not sure how you don't put them 
> in the wash bay.  I can't think of an exception. Standard NFPA 13 
> about corrosive environments, yes you need to do something.
>
> Chris Cahill, PE*
> Senior Fire Protection Engineer
> Burns & McDonnell
> 8201 Norman Center Drive
> Bloomington, MN 55437
> Phone:  952.656.3652
> Fax:  952.229.2923
> [email protected]
> www.burnsmcd.com
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt 
> Grise
> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 2:32 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Heads in Car Wash
>
> We recently completed a car wash.
>
> We had to sprinkle the machine, electrical, and convenience store rooms.
> The actual wash bay was excluded. Owner paid for all galvanized 
> schedule 40 pipe and stainless steel sprinkler heads. They had 
> originally considered stainless steel piping.
>
> Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP, NICET II
> Sales Engineer
> Alliance Fire Protection
> 130 w 9th Ave.
> North Kansas City, MO 64116
>
> *Licensed in KS & MO
>
> 913.888.0647 ph
> 913.888.0618 f
> 913.927.0222 cell
> www. AFPsprink.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd 
> Letterman
> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 2:27 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Heads in Car Wash
>
> Hi Brian you didn't say where it was, how big or what code your under, 
> but if you go to definitions under the IBC A-5 occupancy will see car washes.
> Then go to 903.2.1.5 and you will see when sprinklers are required if 
> where you are at is under the 2009 IBC.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Dec 4, 2013, at 11:51 AM, "Brian Harris" 
> > <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Quoting a large auto dealership that has a drive thru car wash 
> > attached
> to the side of the building. I can't find anything in the code 
> specifically dealing with a car wash but for some reason it just seems 
> strange to add heads to a carwash, yes/no?  Also, if they are required 
> which my gut says they are is there a concern about corrosion & rust? Thanks!
> >
> > Brian Harris, CET
> > BVS Systems Inc.
> > Sprinkler Division
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> > Fax: 704.896.1935
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