There is a basket shaped screen at the base of the shaft to protect the pump
impellers.
 If that screen is clogged or obstructed the waterflow is greatly reduced.
We had a VT pump screen enclosed by plastic sheet in the cistern.


Art Tiroly
ATCO Fire Protection/Tiroly
24400 Highland Rd CLE 44143
216-621-8899
216-570-7030 cell



-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Todd Williams
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: pump replacement issue

VT pump in cistern 

Todd G Williams, PE
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, CT
860-535-2080
www.fpdc.com


> On Nov 12, 2014, at 2:45 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
wrote:
> 
> Has the water supply to the pump been tested and deemed sufficient and
meeting the original design criteria?
> 
> Craig L. Prahl
> Fire Protection Group Lead
> CH2MHILL
> Lockwood Greene
> 1500 International Drive
> Spartanburg, SC  29303
> Direct - 864.599.4102
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sprinklerforum 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Todd - Work
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 2:43 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: pump replacement issue
> 
> The manufacturer's literature states that this pump requires a minimum of
22.1 hp to meet the demand. I have no idea what the actual output of the
pump is but the plate says 30 hp. Not sure if torque would play into this at
all.
> 
> My contract was only to witness the pump test and write a letter regarding
it. Determining if it provided sufficient water for the sprinklers was not a
part of it. At the beginning of this project, I submitted a proposal through
the contractor to analyze the sprinkler systems (two separate schools) and
make sure the new pumps met the criteria, but that was turned down as not
needed. I have some issues with the system in at least one school, but that
is well documented. 
> 
> The test was done using 2 Hosemonsters with 1-3/4" inserts. When the
straight 2-1/2" HM's were used, the pressure dropped to 4 psi, which is
below the minimum HM recommends. 
> 
> Todd G Williams, PE
> Fire Protection Design/Consulting
> Stonington, CT
> www.fpdc.com
> 860-535-2080 (ofc)
> 
>> On Nov 12, 2014, at 8:23 AM, Matt Grise <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> It is still early for me - so I cannot guarantee 100% brain power behind
this...
>> 
>> I would say that the HP deficit could definitely cause your flow 
>> shortage. The work that the motor puts in results in water flow and 
>> water pressure. You can get more flow OR more pressure for the same 
>> HP, but if you want more of both it takes more power. (for a fun 
>> time, read that sentence with Mr Scotty's voice when captain Kirk 
>> asks for warp 7)
>> 
>> Also - lots of pump literature will also include a horsepower demand 
>> curve under the pressure/flow curve. If it is there, you might line 
>> up 30 hp against th
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