Neither. You need 4,000 gpm at the 6 or how ever many hydrants there are. At 
the flow you need 20 psi residual at the same hydrants. Think of it like a 
hydrant flow test with 3 or so hydrants open and the 4th residual of 20.


Chris Cahill
Fire Protection Engineer
Burns & McDonnell
952-656-3652
[email protected]


-------- Original message --------
From: [email protected]
Date:12/05/2014 8:29 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: A Poll of the Experienced

I think I agree with you, but to be very specific, let's assume I'm designing a 
new building on a greenfield site which is served by a public water system. The 
building is type V construction, 600,000 square feet and fully protected with 
ESFR sprinklers. Table B105.2 indicated a fire flow rate of 8000 GPM, reduced 
to 4000 GPM for sprinkler credit, at minimum 20psi. My question is, WHERE is 
this 4000 GPM at 20 psi measured? At the city water main connection? Or at the 
fire pump discharge?

Mark at Aero
602 820-7894

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> On Dec 5, 2014, at 7:17 PM, "Cahill, Christopher" <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
> Neither.  It's the flow you need for a building. You might get it from a muni 
> or private. Absolutely nothing to do with sprinklers except you get a 
> reduction if building is sprinklered.
>
>
> Chris Cahill
> Fire Protection Engineer
> Burns & McDonnell
> 952-656-3652
> [email protected]
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: [email protected]
> Date:12/05/2014 8:12 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: A Poll of the Experienced
>
> Over this weekend I'd like to ask the opinion of those forumites experienced 
> in the reading and understanding of the "International Fire  Code" on the 
> topic of "Fire Flow" described in Chapter 5, and further prescribed in 
> Appendix B. Is the available flow rate and residual pressure referenced, 
> intended to describe these values of the municipal or private water supply 
> available to the building site? Or, the minimum output of any fire pump 
> associated specifically with the automatic sprinkler system in the building?
> Any takers? Questions? Clarifications?
> Thanks for any answers.
>
> Mark at Aero
> 602 820-7894
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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