Does the fire pump supply the site hydrants? Site fire flow and fire sprinkler 
demand are two independent entities. 

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> On Dec 5, 2014, at 7:29 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> I think I agree with you, but to be very specific, let's assume I'm designing 
> a new building on a greenfield site which is served by a public water system. 
> The building is type V construction, 600,000 square feet and fully protected 
> with ESFR sprinklers. Table B105.2 indicated a fire flow rate of 8000 GPM, 
> reduced to 4000 GPM for sprinkler credit, at minimum 20psi. My question is, 
> WHERE is this 4000 GPM at 20 psi measured? At the city water main connection? 
> Or at the fire pump discharge? 
> 
> Mark at Aero
> 602 820-7894
> 
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>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 7:17 PM, "Cahill, Christopher" <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Neither.  It's the flow you need for a building. You might get it from a 
>> muni or private. Absolutely nothing to do with sprinklers except you get a 
>> reduction if building is sprinklered.
>> 
>> 
>> Chris Cahill
>> Fire Protection Engineer
>> Burns & McDonnell
>> 952-656-3652
>> [email protected]
>> 
>> 
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: [email protected]
>> Date:12/05/2014 8:12 PM (GMT-06:00)
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: A Poll of the Experienced
>> 
>> Over this weekend I'd like to ask the opinion of those forumites experienced 
>> in the reading and understanding of the "International Fire  Code" on the 
>> topic of "Fire Flow" described in Chapter 5, and further prescribed in 
>> Appendix B. Is the available flow rate and residual pressure referenced, 
>> intended to describe these values of the municipal or private water supply 
>> available to the building site? Or, the minimum output of any fire pump 
>> associated specifically with the automatic sprinkler system in the building?
>> Any takers? Questions? Clarifications?
>> Thanks for any answers.
>> 
>> Mark at Aero
>> 602 820-7894
>> 
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