So true. And I love when the specifying engineers don't research the local 
amendments. 

One large jurisdiction here does not allow a reduction in site fire flow for 
13R systems, and only a 50% reduction for 13 systems. 

I'm the bad guy when we have to tell the developer that they have potential 
problems because of local requirements. 

It's getting better but still happens. 

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> On May 19, 2016, at 6:27 AM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Not a problem.  Fire Flow per the IFC is one area of fire protection 
> engineering way too often overlooked, misunderstood or just plain ignored.
>  
> Let me know if you have any other questions.
>  
> 
> Craig L. Prahl 
> Fire Protection Group Lead/SME
> CH2M
> 200 Verdae Blvd. 
> Greenville, SC  29607
> Direct - 864.920.7540
> Fax - 864.920.7129
> CH2MHILL Extension  77540
> [email protected]
> 
>  
> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Brian Harris
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 9:23 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Fire Flow
>  
> Craig-
> Thanks for the info.
>  
> Brian Harris, CET
> BVS Systems Inc.
> bvssytemsinc.com
>  
> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 9:00 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Fire Flow
>  
> You need to contact the local fire code authority and find out from them what 
> their approved method is for determining Fire Flow.  There are more than a 
> half dozen methods that are used.
>  
> Once you find the method to be used, you will use the calculation methodology 
> prescribed within.
>  
> Of the different methods, the results can vary dramatically.
>  
> Call the AHJ.
>  
> If they say they don’t know and don’t’ care, Appendix B of the IFC is the 
> simplest method.  But other methods may be more favorable from a water supply 
> standpoint depending on the type of facility you have.
>  
> Some don’t care if the facility is sprinklered or not, others allow a 
> reduction in fire flow if the bldg. is sprinklered.
>  
> 
> Craig L. Prahl 
> Fire Protection Group Lead/SME
> CH2M
> 200 Verdae Blvd. 
> Greenville, SC  29607
> Direct - 864.920.7540
> Fax - 864.920.7129
> CH2MHILL Extension  77540
> [email protected]
> 
>  
> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Brian Harris
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 8:56 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Fire Flow
>  
> Does anybody have a spreadsheet or pdf they’d care to share that is used to 
> calculate fire flow demand for a project site & determine underground/tap 
> sizes?
>  
> Brian Harris, CET
> BVS Systems Inc.
> Sprinkler Division
> bvssystemsinc.com
> Phone: 704.896.9989
> Fax: 704.896.1935
>  
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