Great answer.

John Irwin - CET
Division Manager – Fire Sprinklers
Critical System Solutions, LLC
Licence Number: FPC16-000053
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From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Jeremy Blocker
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 12:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Another NFPA 25 Question - Controllers

The only ones we do in house are diesel drivers.  This decision was only made 
when the insurance agent explained everything we would need to do to cover our 
rear.  Also we found out that local licensing requires a master electrician be 
the one to touch high voltage.  So the scenario presented to us was that my 
inspector is hurt by electrical equipment. The attorneys would as for his 
license as an electrician, copies of his safety training that we provided. If 
we couldn't show all this we were a sitting duck in court.
JJ
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On Mar 27, 2017, at 9:52 AM, John Irwin 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:
You say 440 volt … So you do the 208v yourself?

John Irwin - CET
Division Manager – Fire Sprinklers
Critical System Solutions, LLC
Licence Number: FPC16-000053
Cell:     813.618.2781
Email:  
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From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Jeremy Blocker
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 11:43 AM
To: 
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Subject: Re: Another NFPA 25 Question - Controllers

The easiest solution we found when faced with this very problem was to call in 
the experts.  When we asked our insurance agent about this we discovered that 
we could end up needing to change our policy to cover high voltage exposure.   
So we now use manufacturers recommended pump service companies to perform the 
test.   This not only keeps us away from the 440 volt 3 phase power but it also 
allows the specialist to find issues that the average sprinkler inspector would 
not notice.  Our reports are carrying more weight now as well since a P.E. 
signs the pump report.
JJ
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On Mar 27, 2017, at 9:25 AM, Matthew J Willis 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
IS voltage a required item on the report? Along with amps?

I always had the PPE and shook hands within..

R/
Matt

Matthew J. Willis
Project Manager
Rapid Fire Protection Inc.<http://rapidfireinc.com/>
1530 Samco Road
Rapid City, SD 57702
Office-605.348.2342
Direct Line-605.593.5063
Cell-605.391.2733
Fax:-605.348.0108

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From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Roland Huggins
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 9:23 AM
To: 
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Subject: Re: Another NFPA 25 Question - Controllers

There is a TIA to NFPA 25 effectively saying stay the hell out of it.  We’ll 
see where it goes but it makes sense considering the hazard.  What do our pump 
inspectors herein think?

Roland


Roland Huggins, PE - Senior VP Engineering
American Fire Sprinkler Assn.
Dallas, TX
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On Mar 27, 2017, at 4:32 AM, John Denhardt 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

My personal opinion - no.

John August Denhardt, P.E.
Strickland Fire Protection

On Mar 27, 2017, at 6:34 AM, John Irwin 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:
What are an inspector’s responsibilities when it comes to opening up a fire 
pump controller? One of our inspector’s wants me to buy him some PPE so he can 
comfortably open up the fire pump controller. I am certainly not opposed to 
this but I have talked to a number of inspectors at other companies who say if 
there isn’t an external meter on the cabinet, the voltage isn’t getting 
recorded. Should sprinkler inspectors even be in the cabinet?




John Irwin - CET
Division Manager – Fire Sprinklers
Critical System Solutions, LLC
License Number: FPC16-000053
2830 Scherer Drive, Suite 300
St. Petersburg, FL  33716
Office: 727.209.5122
Fax:      727.209.5126
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