As a municipal fire inspector I always made sure I stood well back when the controller door was open. Flash burns are ugly. It's not like getting a simple broken arm or something.
But I'm usually witnessing acceptance test. Most annual tests do include amps on each leg. Some have lead this discussion away from what is code towards how should this be addressed. This is good in this case. I'd bet few NFPA 25 inspectors are NFPA 70E whizzes. Diesel controllers. Not the same at all. Best Bruce Verhei > On Mar 27, 2017, at 09:14, John Irwin <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Great answer. > > John Irwin - CET > Division Manager – Fire Sprinklers > Critical System Solutions, LLC > Licence Number: FPC16-000053 > Cell: 813.618.2781 > Email: [email protected] > > <image003.png> > > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Jeremy Blocker > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 12:06 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Another NFPA 25 Question - Controllers > > The only ones we do in house are diesel drivers. This decision was only made > when the insurance agent explained everything we would need to do to cover > our rear. Also we found out that local licensing requires a master > electrician be the one to touch high voltage. So the scenario presented to > us was that my inspector is hurt by electrical equipment. The attorneys would > as for his license as an electrician, copies of his safety training that we > provided. If we couldn't show all this we were a sitting duck in court. > > JJ > Sent from my iPhone 6 > > On Mar 27, 2017, at 9:52 AM, John Irwin <[email protected]> > wrote: > > You say 440 volt … So you do the 208v yourself? > > John Irwin - CET > Division Manager – Fire Sprinklers > Critical System Solutions, LLC > Licence Number: FPC16-000053 > Cell: 813.618.2781 > Email: [email protected] > > <image003.png> > > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Jeremy Blocker > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 11:43 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Another NFPA 25 Question - Controllers > > The easiest solution we found when faced with this very problem was to call > in the experts. When we asked our insurance agent about this we discovered > that we could end up needing to change our policy to cover high voltage > exposure. So we now use manufacturers recommended pump service companies to > perform the test. This not only keeps us away from the 440 volt 3 phase > power but it also allows the specialist to find issues that the average > sprinkler inspector would not notice. Our reports are carrying more weight > now as well since a P.E. signs the pump report. > > JJ > Sent from my iPhone 6 > > On Mar 27, 2017, at 9:25 AM, Matthew J Willis <[email protected]> wrote: > > IS voltage a required item on the report? Along with amps? > > I always had the PPE and shook hands within.. > > R/ > Matt > > Matthew J. Willis > Project Manager > Rapid Fire Protection Inc. > 1530 Samco Road > Rapid City, SD 57702 > Office-605.348.2342 > Direct Line-605.593.5063 > Cell-605.391.2733 > Fax:-605.348.0108 > > <image001.png> > > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Roland Huggins > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 9:23 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Another NFPA 25 Question - Controllers > > There is a TIA to NFPA 25 effectively saying stay the hell out of it. We’ll > see where it goes but it makes sense considering the hazard. What do our > pump inspectors herein think? > > Roland > > > Roland Huggins, PE - Senior VP Engineering > American Fire Sprinkler Assn. > Dallas, TX > http://www.firesprinkler.org > > Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives > > > > > On Mar 27, 2017, at 4:32 AM, John Denhardt <[email protected]> > wrote: > > My personal opinion - no. > > John August Denhardt, P.E. > Strickland Fire Protection > > On Mar 27, 2017, at 6:34 AM, John Irwin <[email protected]> > wrote: > > What are an inspector’s responsibilities when it comes to opening up a fire > pump controller? One of our inspector’s wants me to buy him some PPE so he > can comfortably open up the fire pump controller. I am certainly not opposed > to this but I have talked to a number of inspectors at other companies who > say if there isn’t an external meter on the cabinet, the voltage isn’t > getting recorded. Should sprinkler inspectors even be in the cabinet? > > > > > John Irwin - CET > Division Manager – Fire Sprinklers > Critical System Solutions, LLC > License Number: FPC16-000053 > 2830 Scherer Drive, Suite 300 > St. Petersburg, FL 33716 > Office: 727.209.5122 > Fax: 727.209.5126 > Cell: 813.618.2781 > Email: [email protected] > > <image003.png> > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > <image003.png>_______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
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