Thanks Ed, I missed the one about the K-factors.  I took a look at the
inspections tags and the dry system has 70sec trip times so it looks like a
wet system is the way to go.  We could retrofit the valve with an
electronic accelerator but Tyco states to only expect the trip time to get
about 20sec better.

Dewayne



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A couple of things to consider:

-        Section 8.4.5.2 – can’t use residential sprinks on a dry system
unless specifically listed for dry systems.

-        Section 8.3.4.1(2) – Unless the pipe is galvanized or otherwise
corrosion resistant, minimum K-factor is 5.6.



So you’ll need a residential sprink that is listed for dry systems and is
K5.6 or greater.



Ed Kramer



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NFPA 13 (07ed)



I have an existing 5th floor shell space that is installed as a light
hazard dry system that has pipe in the shell space and in the attic.  They
are turning this floor into a dormitory (R-2).

1)Can I use listed residential heads on return bends and only pick up 4
heads per 11.3.1.1 or will I need to pick up 1950SF?  What if there are
incidental areas such as a laundry room, ect. in the same areas as the dorm
rooms?

2)What would be the required trip time be per Table 7.2.3.6.1?  15sec for
residential or 60sec for light hazard?



Thanks,

Dewayne Martinez

Fire Protection Design Manager



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