Could you apply 8.15.7.4 to omit? This doesn’t take into account the “trellis” type ceiling but being the trellis will not have walls and no occupancy above (A.8.15.7.2) I would think you can omit coverage. A bit of a stretch as far as backing it up with code though, I know.
Regards, Wayne T. Cordiner, Jr. 917-426-5844 [email protected] > On Jun 25, 2018, at 10:35, Travis Mack <[email protected]> wrote: > > It’s a golf clubhouse with a radius projection. There are limited spots to > hang if we have to protect this space. It’s just a big cluster bomb. > > > Travis Mack, SET > MFP Design, LLC > "Follow" us on Facebook: > https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 > Send large files to MFP Design via: > https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 25, 2018, at 8:24 AM, Prahl, Craig/GVL <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> 8.15.14 doesn’t apply to this application. That section is for grated >> “ceilings” installed below sprinklers. >> >> Trellis construction being open is similar to a pergola where there is no >> ceiling/roof. >> >> Being open, you can’t trap heat or smoke as long as they don’t plan to let >> plants grow on the trellis work to create a “green roof/ceiling”. >> >> Is this for public seating? If it is, there may be local requirements for >> overhead materials if they are combustible. >> >> >> >> Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead – Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 | >> [email protected] | www.jacobs.com >> >> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Kyle.Montgomery >> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 11:02 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: % open >> >> Then I don’t think the section sited below is the correct application. I’m >> honestly not sure where that is quantified. We usually are successful making >> the argument that it won’t trap heat, but I can’t think of where that’s >> actually spelled out in the code. I’m interested in the responses to this >> one. >> >> Would it not otherwise meet the criteria for omitting sprinklers under an >> exterior projection? >> >> -Kyle M >> >> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of MFP Design, LLC >> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 7:52 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: % open >> >> Yes. That is exactly it. >> >> <image001.jpg> >> Travis Mack, SET >> MFP Design, LLC >> 3356 E Vallejo Ct >> Gilbert, AZ 85298 >> 480-505-9271 >> fax: 866-430-6107 >> email:[email protected] >> >> http://www.mfpdesign.com >> https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 >> Send large files to us via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign >> LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travismack >> >> “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low >> price is forgotten.” >> >> From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On >> Behalf Of Kyle.Montgomery >> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 7:52 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: % open >> >> Travis, >> >> Are you talking about an exterior trellis? Something that would not have >> sprinklers above, just open to the sky above? >> >> -Kyle M >> >> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of John Paulsen >> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 7:48 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: % open >> >> 8.15.14.1 (2013) >> >> John Paulsen – SET >> Crown Fire System Design >> 6282 Seeds Rd. >> Grove City, OH 43123 >> P – 614-782-2438 >> F – 614-782-2374 >> C – 614-348-8206 >> >> >> >> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of MFP Design, LLC >> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 10:44 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: % open >> >> I have a project where the architect is asking what is the % opening >> required in a trellis type structure so that sprinklers are not required. >> 70% open is coming to mind, but I can’t find a section referencing anything >> like that. 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