If that’s the case, why not let him decide if he wants them or not, regardless 
of whether they would be required in a new build? A requirement has little to 
do with whether or not they provide additional value or safety/protection.

-Kyle M

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Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 11:37 AM
To: Prahl, Craig/GVL <[email protected]>; 
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Cc: Ken Haney <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Unsprinklered Parking Garage

All,
We have an Owner with deep pockets. All we need to know is whether sprinklers 
and/or standpipe would be required if this was building being constructed now. 
He can then decide if an upgrade is something he wants to do.

Ken Haney
Certified Engineering Tech
Haney Fire Protection, Inc.
610.217.0347
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

From: Prahl, Craig/GVL<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 2:26 PM
To: 
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Cc: Ken Haney<mailto:[email protected]>; 
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Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Unsprinklered Parking Garage

Was the system code compliant when installed and the certificate of occupancy 
issued?  If it was, it doesn’t matter if it meets current code unless there 
were building changes that according to code required areas or systems to be 
updated.

Most owners are not going to update fire protection systems unless the law 
requires them to do so.  It’s a huge expenditure with little to no return on 
investment for property owners.

Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME – Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 | 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> | 
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 On Behalf Of Ken Haney via Sprinklerforum
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Cc: Ken Haney <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Unsprinklered Parking Garage

Thanks Guys.
I do understand we are responsible to inspect the installed system as is. 
However, if it is not in conformance with current Code requirements, I would 
like to give the Owner the option to update it.

Ken Haney
Certified Engineering Tech
Haney Fire Protection, Inc.
610.217.0347
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

From: tstone52--- via 
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Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 1:44 PM
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Subject: RE: Unsprinklered Parking Garage

To my knowledge that is not an inspection item per NFPA 25. You can ask the 
owner after you have performed an NFPA 25 Inspection.

Regards,
G. Tim Stone

G. Tim Stone Consulting, LLC
NICET Level III Engineering Technician
Fire Protection Sprinkler Design
and Consulting Services

   117 Old Stage Rd. - Essex Jct., VT. 05452
CELL: (802) 373-0638   TEL: (802) 434-2968
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Cc: Ken Haney <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Unsprinklered Parking Garage

Hello All,
I am a first time participant, so please bear with me. We have a new inspection 
customer in the State of NJ that has a fully sprinklered (6) story office 
building with a standpipe in the stair tower.  It sits on an underground 
parking garage that has no standpipe or sprinkler protection. Does anyone know 
if sprinklers and/or a standpipe are a Code requirement for this situation?
Thanks,

Ken Haney
Certified Engineering Tech
Haney Fire Protection, Inc.
610.217.0347
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>





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