Dear Bryce

Certainly a "Closed Loop" or "condensing system" is more efficient than an 
non-condensing system. 

While the steam engine may not require Certification, boilers do, depending on 
the rules in a given Jurisdiction. While it is certainly possible to operate a 
steam boiler "in a back woods location that the Boiler Inspector doesn't know 
about", The Boiler Inspector will find out if there is an accident where 
someone is seriously injured or killed. 

Steam can kill.

If anyone is considering a "Steam Application" they should check with their 
Boiler Inspector, to confirm that he would be able to approve the Proposed 
Project.

Best wishes,

Kevin
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bryce L Nordgren 
  To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [Stoves] Green Steam Engine


  Hi Kevin, 

  Thanks for the lesson. Spent a little time googling and wikipediaing. I may 
have a slightly better grasp of the topic now.

  I did find something which may be worth looking at: 

  http://www.greenturbine.eu/en/product.php

  These appear to be self-contained turbines with a closed loop steam/feedwater 
condenser system at 1.2, 2.4, and 15 kW. Steam is supplied at ~5 bar and the 
condenser side is ~.1 bar. They sell primarily to systems integrators, one of 
which makes a CHP wood pellet furnace w/cogen. (http://www.greengen.be/) I 
wonder if they would sell to APL and/or if APL would have any interest in 
making a steam turbine genset...

  Bryce



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