Hi Michael, Perhaps experimenters could try other methods than making pellets? A very light fuel like grass can end up costing a lot to make into pellets. How about twisting the grasses into rope? Then cut into small sections?
All Best, Dean On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Michael Mahowald <[email protected]>wrote: > Trees are important but fuel for stoves should be from Grass! I have > worked in Haiti for 15 years and the erosion is so bad in some areas that > reforestation projects fail because they cannot keep them watered enough in > the dry seasons. The only way to bring back the soil and hold moisture is > planting vetiver grass. > > Grass energy precisely grass pellets are what is needed for tlud stoves > please look at my website > to understand what I am talking about. We want to work with all Tlud > stoves but the real problem is the fuel! > http://haitireconstruction.ning.com/ > > Our solution fixes many problems as you will see. > > Michael E. Mahowald > President > Haiti Reconstruction International <http://haitireconstruction.ning.com/> > 952-220-6814 > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:39:36 +0300 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Stoves] [Ethos] ETHOS Discussion about decentalized stove > efforts > > Dear Ronal - > > Thank you very much for your kind words. > > I am very concerned about the woodfuel supply chain, after all, if I make > improved efficient stoves that make its easier and cheaper for people to > burn tree's with, it is a wise investment for me to do all I can to help my > customers grow more trees. > > I hope we can encourage more players in the cookstove industry to join us > in advocating, promoting and being involved in sustainable woodfuel > focused forestry projects. > > We actually had made a few prototypes of char producing and char using > stoves a few years ago but discontinued due to low market demand. > > Teddy > > *Cookswell Jikos* > www.cookswell.co.ke > www.facebook.com/CookswellJikos > www.kenyacharcoal.blogspot.com > Mobile: +254 700 380 0 09 > Mobile: +254 700 905 913 > P.O. Box 1433, Nairobi 00606, Kenya > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Ronal W. Larson < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Teddy et al: > > I have just visited your web site and was very impressed. You > obviously have a big concern about charcoal being produced badly - so thank > for that. I like your comments on where/how to manufacture stoves. > > You also look like a great company to manufacture char-making stoves. > Is that possibly on the horizon for cookswelljikos? > > Ron > > > On Jan 11, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Cookswell Jikos <[email protected]&g > t; wrote: > > Dear Richard, Salaams, > > I did meet Charles briefly once, but that was many years ago - I do try to > stay in touch as much as my work schedule allows with as many other stovies > in Kenya as I can but we are all a busy lot and dont get to see each other > enough. > > In regards to your email above, I have found that at the end of the day, > whether or not the the stove was made in either of the manufacturing > systems discussed, it remains one of the last things on a long list of > reasons why my customers part with their hard earned money to buy a > Cookswell stove. > Cheers, > > Teddy > > > > *Cookswell Jikos* > www.cookswell.co.ke > www.facebook.com/CookswellJikos > www.kenyacharcoal.blogspot.com > Mobile: +254 700 380 009 > Mobile: +254 700 905 913 > P.O. Box 1433, Nairobi 00606, Kenya > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Richard Stanley <[email protected] > > wrote: > > Habari gani, Teddy, > Did you ever hear of Charles Onyando over in Kangemi? He passed away a > few years ago but was very active with stoves himself and he worked with > your father for a while in testing and design. > Richard Stanley > www.legacyfound.org > Indani ya nchi ya US, kwa sasa > > On Jan 11, 2014, at 4:27 AM, Cookswell Jikos wrote: > > Dear All, > > This is a very interesting discussion that I have been happily following > during my travels this last week. I find that di scussions like these help > to define the complexities of the biomass cookstove sector. I often wonder > what other non-electric domestic cooking appliances attract such passionate > players and great thinkers in their respective product lines. > > I personally have been lucky enough to have been somewhat involved in both > ends of this question of centralized and decentralized manufacture of > cookstoves - my late dad, Dr. Max Kinyanjui, would tell me of how once he > almost quite the KCJ (Kenya Ceramic Jiko) project when centralized > production was initially suggested, and thankfully he did not. Today I am > currently looking into designing flat pack systems for KCJ's and other > associated sheet metal cut outs ( charcoal making drum kilns, charcoal > baking ovens etc.) that can be locally assembled by networks of existing > manufactures; this is mainly to reduce raw material transport and waste > issues, increase standardization levels, increase customer/stove maker > interactions and to reduce end user costs. > > I feel that one major design achievement to enhance stove dissemination > (but is perhaps a bit bad business) is to create something that is so > useful and easy to use, understand and make money off of, to huge range of > potential customers that replication, sometimes for the better, many times > for the worse, snowballs the technology into the kitchens of the ones > needing it most. > > To the Cookswell/Kinyanjui family, seeing our inventions and designs being > copied and sold in many countries by many levels of manufacturers is one of > the most satisfactory feelings of being good stove makers. We also very > much hope that more people will also begin to take the time to appreciate > the value of conducting a holistic manufacturing process that gives due > consideration to the life cycle analysis of the product(s) in question. > > And as we continue exploring not only the stove, but the entire > ''seed-to-ash'' cycle of household biomass energy, I would just like to > send a vote of thanks to all those who actively contribute and manage this > list serve, it is very good stove reading. > > Happy new years and all the best to all, > > Teddy Kinyanjui > > Sustainability Director > > *Cookswell Jikos* > www.cookswell.co.ke > www.facebook.com/CookswellJikos > www.kenyacharcoal.blogspot.com > Mobile: +254 700 380 009 > Mobile: +254 700 905 913 > P.O. Box 1433, Nairobi 00606, Kenya > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Ranyee Chiang <[email protected] > > wrote: > > Interesting topics for further discussion at ETHOS. A good way to frame > this discussion may be to think about ways that the different types of > efforts can be integrated together, or how they can learn from each other. > Certainly from the Global Alliance's point of view, both types of efforts > are important and require different types of tailored support. It would be > useful to hear some discussion about the specifics of the tailored support > that is needed in each case. And overall, I think that a discussion > focused &quo t;and" not "versus" would be quite interesting. > > Cheers, > Ranyee > ________________________________________ > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on > behalf of Paul Anderson <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 3:33 PM > To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves; ETHOS - Listserve > Subject: Re: [Ethos] [Stoves] ETHOS Discussion about decentalized stove > efforts > > Ben, > > Please provide more info about that suggestion/recommendation. When was > it, and to whom? Any viable contacts that could be reached for further > clarification? > > In general, the decentralized elements are not "organized" and have far > fewer funds. Much of it is lobbying and money to get decisions that > favor those who can lobby and have the money already. Because that is > not likely to change, what strategies are possible for decentralized > efforts even in relatively small geographic areas? > > Paul > > Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD > Email: [email protected] > Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072 > Website: www.drtlud.com > > On 12/31/2013 8:51 PM, Ben Blevins wrote: > > Deloitte contractors suggested decentralized for various reasons, there > consulting was rejected because the finding did not reinforce the message > of mass production and distribution by development industry players. > > > > B > > > > > > On Dec 31, 2013, at 6:34 PM, Paul Anderson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Dear Paal, and all, > >> > >> As much as I can agree with Paal's statements, but I think the cards > are stacked against the success of decentralized efforts. > >> > >> The issue that Paal raises about the need to have decentralized > production of stoves (and fuels) is a touchy topic because the "model" of > the affluent world is for centralized industrial production. That > centralized model is certainly a cornerstone of the GACC and WB and many > who feel that the model of the affluent world will work to resolve major > issues in the developing world. And they control access to most of the > funding. And they present very convincing arguments. (If they could > not, they would not be in control of the situation.) > >> > >> It would be good to have some examples of decentralized efforts having > major impacts. Maybe the spread of the Kenyan ceramic jiko (KCJ) is one > example. > >> > >> I will be at ETHOS and willing for such discussions if others step > forward wanting to discuss this informally as an ad hoc sub-group. > >> > >> Paul > >> > >> Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD > >> Email: [email protected] > >> Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072 > >> Website: www.drtlud.com > >> > >> On 12/31/2013 10:15 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >>> On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 08:12:54 -0700, > >>> [email protected] wrote: > >>> > >>>> Due to health and age it will not be possible for me to participate, > but after 30 years working with task and followed the discussion at Stove > list I have come to this conclusion. > >>>> > >>>> There has to be a discussion at ETHOS about centralized or > decentralized activities regarding fuel an d stove production with a view > on the enormous unemployment in developing countries. Taken into > consideration the high demands of clean combustion, pellets will be the > future biomass fuel for simple clean burning such as TLUD ND and FD. Energy > forestry and agriculture energy production together collection of waste > biomass of different types will give a lot of new needed jobs. > >>>> > >>>> · Registration of local waste combustible biomass. > >>>> > >>>> · Use of local resources > >>>> > >>>> · Biochar production by cooking. > >>>> > >>>> That will be the best way for GACC Stove program to support the low > income groups all around the worl > >>>> > >>>> Best regards Paal Wendelbo [email protected] > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Stoves mailing list > >>> > >>> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > >>> [email protected] > >>> > >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the w eb page > >>> > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org > >>> > >>> for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web > site: > >>> http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/ > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Stoves mailing list > >> > >> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > >> [email protected] > >> > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > >> > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org > >> > >> for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site: > >> http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/ > >> > > > > _____________________________________ __________ > > Stoves mailing list > > > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > > [email protected] > > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > > > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org > > > > for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site: > > http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ethos mailing list > [email protected] > http://cannon-mail.vrac.iastate.edu/mailman/listinfo/ethos > ________________________________ > > ________________________________ > > The United Nations Foundation DC office is moving! 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