Dear Ronal - Thank you very much for your kind words.
I am very concerned about the woodfuel supply chain, after all, if I make improved efficient stoves that make its easier and cheaper for people to burn tree's with, it is a wise investment for me to do all I can to help my customers grow more trees. I hope we can encourage more players in the cookstove industry to join us in advocating, promoting and being involved in sustainable woodfuel focused forestry projects. We actually had made a few prototypes of char producing and char using stoves a few years ago but discontinued due to low market demand. Teddy *Cookswell Jikos* www.cookswell.co.ke www.facebook.com/CookswellJikos www.kenyacharcoal.blogspot.com Mobile: +254 700 380 009 Mobile: +254 700 905 913 P.O. Box 1433, Nairobi 00606, Kenya On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Ronal W. Larson <[email protected] > wrote: > Teddy et al: > > I have just visited your web site and was very impressed. You > obviously have a big concern about charcoal being produced badly - so thank > for that. I like your comments on where/how to manufacture stoves. > > You also look like a great company to manufacture char-making stoves. > Is that possibly on the horizon for cookswelljikos? > > Ron > > > On Jan 11, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Cookswell Jikos <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Dear Richard, Salaams, > > I did meet Charles briefly once, but that was many years ago - I do try to > stay in touch as much as my work schedule allows with as many other stovies > in Kenya as I can but we are all a busy lot and dont get to see each other > enough. > > In regards to your email above, I have found that at the end of the day, > whether or not the the stove was made in either of the manufacturing > systems discussed, it remains one of the last things on a long list of > reasons why my customers part with their hard earned money to buy a > Cookswell stove. > Cheers, > > Teddy > > > > *Cookswell Jikos* > www.cookswell.co.ke > www.facebook.com/CookswellJikos > www.kenyacharcoal.blogspot.com > Mobile: +254 700 380 009 > Mobile: +254 700 905 913 > P.O. Box 1433, Nairobi 00606, Kenya > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Richard Stanley <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> Habari gani, Teddy, >> Did you ever hear of Charles Onyando over in Kangemi? He passed away a >> few years ago but was very active with stoves himself and he worked with >> your father for a while in testing and design. >> Richard Stanley >> www.legacyfound.org >> Indani ya nchi ya US, kwa sasa >> >> On Jan 11, 2014, at 4:27 AM, Cookswell Jikos wrote: >> >> Dear All, >> >> This is a very interesting discussion that I have been happily following >> during my travels this last week. I find that discussions like these help >> to define the complexities of the biomass cookstove sector. I often wonder >> what other non-electric domestic cooking appliances attract such passionate >> players and great thinkers in their respective product lines. >> >> I personally have been lucky enough to have been somewhat involved in >> both ends of this question of centralized and decentralized manufacture of >> cookstoves - my late dad, Dr. Max Kinyanjui, would tell me of how once he >> almost quite the KCJ (Kenya Ceramic Jiko) project when centralized >> production was initially suggested, and thankfully he did not. Today I am >> currently looking into designing flat pack systems for KCJ's and other >> associated sheet metal cut outs ( charcoal making drum kilns, charcoal >> baking ovens etc.) that can be locally assembled by networks of existing >> manufactures; this is mainly to reduce raw material transport and waste >> issues, increase standardization levels, increase customer/stove maker >> interactions and to reduce end user costs. >> >> I feel that one major design achievement to enhance stove dissemination >> (but is perhaps a bit bad business) is to create something that is so >> useful and easy to use, understand and make money off of, to huge range of >> potential customers that replication, sometimes for the better, many times >> for the worse, snowballs the technology into the kitchens of the ones >> needing it most. >> >> To the Cookswell/Kinyanjui family, seeing our inventions and designs >> being copied and sold in many countries by many levels of manufacturers is >> one of the most satisfactory feelings of being good stove makers. We also >> very much hope that more people will also begin to take the time to >> appreciate the value of conducting a holistic manufacturing process that >> gives due consideration to the life cycle analysis of the product(s) in >> question. >> >> And as we continue exploring not only the stove, but the entire >> ''seed-to-ash'' cycle of household biomass energy, I would just like to >> send a vote of thanks to all those who actively contribute and manage this >> list serve, it is very good stove reading. >> >> Happy new years and all the best to all, >> >> Teddy Kinyanjui >> >> Sustainability Director >> >> *Cookswell Jikos* >> www.cookswell.co.ke >> www.facebook.com/CookswellJikos >> www.kenyacharcoal.blogspot.com >> Mobile: +254 700 380 009 >> Mobile: +254 700 905 913 >> P.O. Box 1433, Nairobi 00606, Kenya >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Ranyee Chiang < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Interesting topics for further discussion at ETHOS. A good way to frame >>> this discussion may be to think about ways that the different types of >>> efforts can be integrated together, or how they can learn from each other. >>> Certainly from the Global Alliance's point of view, both types of efforts >>> are important and require different types of tailored support. It would be >>> useful to hear some discussion about the specifics of the tailored support >>> that is needed in each case. And overall, I think that a discussion >>> focused "and" not "versus" would be quite interesting. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ranyee >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>> on behalf of Paul Anderson <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 3:33 PM >>> To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves; ETHOS - Listserve >>> Subject: Re: [Ethos] [Stoves] ETHOS Discussion about decentalized stove >>> efforts >>> >>> Ben, >>> >>> Please provide more info about that suggestion/recommendation. When was >>> it, and to whom? Any viable contacts that could be reached for further >>> clarification? >>> >>> In general, the decentralized elements are not "organized" and have far >>> fewer funds. Much of it is lobbying and money to get decisions that >>> favor those who can lobby and have the money already. Because that is >>> not likely to change, what strategies are possible for decentralized >>> efforts even in relatively small geographic areas? >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072 >>> Website: www.drtlud.com >>> >>> On 12/31/2013 8:51 PM, Ben Blevins wrote: >>> > Deloitte contractors suggested decentralized for various reasons, >>> there consulting was rejected because the finding did not reinforce the >>> message of mass production and distribution by development industry players. >>> > >>> > B >>> > >>> > >>> > On Dec 31, 2013, at 6:34 PM, Paul Anderson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> >> Dear Paal, and all, >>> >> >>> >> As much as I can agree with Paal's statements, but I think the cards >>> are stacked against the success of decentralized efforts. >>> >> >>> >> The issue that Paal raises about the need to have decentralized >>> production of stoves (and fuels) is a touchy topic because the "model" of >>> the affluent world is for centralized industrial production. That >>> centralized model is certainly a cornerstone of the GACC and WB and many >>> who feel that the model of the affluent world will work to resolve major >>> issues in the developing world. And they control access to most of the >>> funding. And they present very convincing arguments. (If they could >>> not, they would not be in control of the situation.) >>> >> >>> >> It would be good to have some examples of decentralized efforts >>> having major impacts. Maybe the spread of the Kenyan ceramic jiko (KCJ) >>> is one example. >>> >> >>> >> I will be at ETHOS and willing for such discussions if others step >>> forward wanting to discuss this informally as an ad hoc sub-group. >>> >> >>> >> Paul >>> >> >>> >> Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD >>> >> Email: [email protected] >>> >> Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072 >>> >> Website: www.drtlud.com >>> >> >>> >> On 12/31/2013 10:15 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 08:12:54 -0700, >>> >>> [email protected] wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Due to health and age it will not be possible for me to >>> participate, but after 30 years working with task and followed the >>> discussion at Stove list I have come to this conclusion. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> There has to be a discussion at ETHOS about centralized or >>> decentralized activities regarding fuel and stove production with a view on >>> the enormous unemployment in developing countries. Taken into consideration >>> the high demands of clean combustion, pellets will be the future biomass >>> fuel for simple clean burning such as TLUD ND and FD. Energy forestry and >>> agriculture energy production together collection of waste biomass of >>> different types will give a lot of new needed jobs. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> · Registration of local waste combustible biomass. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> · Use of local resources >>> >>>> >>> >>>> · Biochar production by cooking. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> That will be the best way for GACC Stove program to support the low >>> income groups all around the worl >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Best regards Paal Wendelbo [email protected] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Stoves mailing list >>> >>> >>> >>> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >>> >>> >>> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org >>> >>> >>> >>> for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web >>> site: >>> >>> http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/ >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Stoves mailing list >>> >> >>> >> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> >>> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >>> >> >>> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org >>> >> >>> >> for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web >>> site: >>> >> http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/ >>> >> >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Stoves mailing list >>> > >>> > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >>> > [email protected] >>> > >>> > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >>> > >>> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org >>> > >>> > for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web >>> site: >>> > http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/ >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ethos mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://cannon-mail.vrac.iastate.edu/mailman/listinfo/ethos >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> The United Nations Foundation DC office is moving! 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