Guy This tired tactic of yours of attacking without attacking is getting old. Yes DFLers have internal disagreements and some disputes. Most of these are public as an outsider like you can easily reference some of it without misrepresenting them (but you choose not to). You then go on to speak of your beloved Greens and their quest for political/social perfection.
That pursuit is good, but you seem to forget that the Green Party has had some internal ironies as well. In the usual anti-DFL zeal, in the 2002 U.S. Senate campaign the Greens endorsed a pro-war, conservative candidate who made several anti-semitic comments that spoke to his bigotry. Thank goodness there was a primary to fall back on so that the voters in the Party could correct the mistake. I guess that's one time you're pleased that the system in the way that it is. Now for Nader, the sole reason for the major party status of the Green Party in Minnesota. What can one say about his hypocrisy? This guy spends the 2000 campaign blasting the corporate influence in campaigns and bloviating on the sameness of Dems and Repubs. This year, he's got corporate dollars in huge amounts helping him gain access to the ballot and plenty of Republican operatives working to secure his ballot access. I guess the big money is ok if its coming your way. The semantics about Kelly being a Democratic For Life is not funny. It was direct to his party affiliation not association with the Pro-Life Democrats. Next subject, this horse is dead. Eric Mitchell Eastsider --- Guy Western <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You've obviously come to this discussion late. I'll > take your > misperceptions one at a time. > > > [Original Message] > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Guy writes: > > There is an organization called Democrats for Life > and Randy C. Kelly is > one of its members. > > > Michael Lewis replies > > This is no big deal, just an issue group of > Democrats who are against > choice in the abortion debate. > > You find these internal conflicts all the time in > political parties, like > Republicans who actually do want > > a balanced budget. > > This is to rebut Andy Driscoll's previous assertion > that "Kelly is no > Democrat for Life". I just made a factual > refutation. I'll leave you two > Democrats fight it out about the significance of the > fact. > > > _______________ > > > > Guy writes: > > > > Dave Shove's allegation is that when Vance > Opperman doesn't like the > > candidate nominated/endorsed by the St. Paul DFL > by whatever process, > > he contributes heavily to the opposition. That's > a nasty little internal > > dynamic for the DFL to overcome. > > > Michael Lewis replies > > Cross that off your list of things to do, > > If you'd read my next sentence you'd realize I > haven't the remotest > intention of putting this on any list of mine. > > <unsnip> I hope someday the St. Paul DFL relieves > > itself of the stranglehold of big money interests > from across the river, > > but that's one of the reasons I joined the Green > Party. > > Again, I'll leave you two Democrats to sort that > out, but my main point in > this discussion that you've recently joined, is that > I don't grind internal > party grits in this forum because it's off-topic for > those who aren't > members. Don't you Democrat Party bigwigs have a > place where you can sort > out your dirty laundry in private? > > Michael Lewis writes: > > Ironically, given your complaints against parties, > the primary election > > process was adopted as a check to the power of > party leaders. > > Choose between a nominating convention and a > nominating election to suit > yourself, but one of them is redundant. As I stated > earlier, my preference > is for the primary election unencumbered by a > nominating convention. > > - Guy Western > the West Side > > _____________________________________________ > To Join: St. Paul Issues Forum Rules Discussion > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _____________________________________________ > NEW ADDRESS FOR LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your > password - visit: > http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul > > Archive Address: > http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _____________________________________________ To Join: St. Paul Issues Forum Rules Discussion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _____________________________________________ NEW ADDRESS FOR LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your password - visit: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul Archive Address: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/
