If I remember correctly, the union demanded that any private companies that
were awarded contracts for taking over city services had to have the same or
similar pay and benefit package that the unions have, which of course,
removes any cost savings incentive to proceed.  Given the overly generous,
taxpayer funded union pay and benefits, any private concern that matched
that would be out of business shortly thereafter.


Dennis Tester
Mac-groveland
St. Paul


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From: "John Mannillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tom & Elsa Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "stpaul forum"
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Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [StPaul] Privatization


> Privatization is an issue that was pushed in Norm Coleman's second term as
> Mayor.  It was pushed by Coleman and his administration along with the
Saint
> Paul Chamber of Commerce.  It went through extensive task force studies,
> public hearings and ultimately failed to pass.  Considering the City
Council
> generally favored the Mayor, there were good reasons it failed.
> The proposed privatization of services was based on the City of
> Indianapolis's experience...according to Coleman and the Chamber.  I was
the
> Chairperson of CityCare at the time.  We held a forum attended by a couple
> hundred citizens including city officials and union members.  We brought
in
> the Deputy Mayor (whose name I can't now remember), from Indianapolis.  He
> structured the system  Coleman touted as the answer.  What was interesting
> was that he acknowledged the pitfalls with pure privatization and in fact
> insisted that the unions be at the table when Indianapolis created their
> system. AFSME members here agreed with this process and supported his
> system.  Coleman and the Chamber ultimately did not and it failed at the
> City Council.
>
> John Mannillo
> Highland Park and Downtown
>
>
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