One thing  to add to Bob's analysis on the CIB process is that there is a
set amount of budget dollars allocated to the Capital Improvement Budget.
This is only a small fraction of the overall annual City budget. So these
citizens are not deciding on department budgets or police, fire etc.

John Mannillo
Downtown and Highland Park
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Spaulding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [StPaul] Citizen Participation in Budgeting


> Every other year, when the biannual CIB process starts, district
> councils directly appoint representatives to participate.  District
> Councils can appoint folks to one of three subcommittees: Community
> Facilities, Streets and Utilities, and Residential and Economic
> Development.   I have participated once in the Community Facilities
> Subcommittee.  One level above the subcommittees, there is a core CIB
> Committee, which is in continuous existence.  The Committee is
> appointed by the Mayor, composed of people who are appointed by the
> Mayor to represent state legislative districts.  The Mayor is
> technically obligated to choose among recommended choices of the
> district councils in the district, and consider the recommendation of
> the legislators.
>
> Anyone can propose a CIB project.  Proposers come to make their case at
> the CIB subcommittee level.  The subcommittee meets for two months to
> review projects, and takes a tour of the projects at the end.  Over the
> years, citizens have pinned down a very rigorous system of review for
> the projects submitted - weighing them each carefully and awarding
> points based on their merits in something like 30 categories.  The
> subcommittee prioritizes the projects and hands that on to the overall
> CIB Committee
>
> Th CIB Committee takes the subcommittee prioritization of projects,
> tweaks them makes monetary recommendations to the Mayor, who then
> passes that onto the Council for approval.  Then, the Mayor has the
> authority to extract from the budget any project he or she doesn't
> like.
>
> Like so much else district councils do, the CIB Committee can only make
> recommendations - the Mayor, and the City Council can change or tinker
> with the recommendations.  And even the Mayor's appointees to the CIB
> Committee, as I found out, can disagree strongly with his/her
> priorities.   Under St. Pau's system, how carefully the Committee's
> work is considered ultimately depends on who our elected
> representatives are, and how accountable we all hold them.
>
> Should the CIB committee's recommendations stand without tinkering?
> Would there be a way to make their recommendations stronger under the
> current system?  I think the overriding sense of the CIB committee I
> served with was an honest disappointment that the recommendation wasn't
> taken seriously.  Looking at the positive, there is at least there is a
> group of citizens who makes a determination, and can then hold our
> elected officials accountable for their actions.  Other cities aren't
> so lucky.  (For more info see
> http://www.ci.stpaul.mn.us/depts/ofs/cib/)
>
> ***
>
> DISTRICT COUNCILS, CIB, and STAR versus NRP:
>
> I'm not qualified to speak on the intracacies NRP's process.  NRP
> doesn't fund exactly the same things as district councils, the CIB
> process or STAR grants.  But there is overlap among all.
>
> But I can say the overriding difference is this: in Saint Paul,
> district councils historically only "make recommendations" - they are
> advisory.  Seldom are district councils mentioned in any official
> capacity.  District councils recommend through the CIB process, and can
> make informal recommendations regarding STAR grant priorities.  As
> such, the power of district councils in St. Paul really depends on how
> strongly they organize to promote their vision or agenda, and then work
> through the appropriate officials to make it a reality.
>
> In Minneapolis, NRP funds are effectively given to each neighborhood to
> prioritize and actually distribute, within certain constraints.  Its a
> bit more akin to having many mini-city councils across the City.
> Sometimes the constraints on giving out the money are political in
> nature - such as a current requirement that something like 45% of the
> NRP Phase II money go to support affordable housing.  Of course, this
> decentralization has some downsides too, and a critique of Minneapolis'
> decentralization (in general) can be found in this week's StarTribune
> (http://www.startribune/opinion).
>
> ***
>
> A VERY DIFFERENT APPROACH: CHICAGO.
>
> A while back I also worked for a group in Chicago whose founding
> purpose was to reform the Capital Improvement Program's prioritization
> process in that City.  As you can imagine, in Chicago, with its
> legendary machine politics, the power dynamics are quite different.
> Until 15 years ago, there weren't even any significant public hearings
> on the Capital Improvement priorities there.  Without scrutiny, the
> Mayor's projects rose easily to the top.  Chicago Aldermen and
> Alderwomen dole out money ward by ward, disproportionately to political
> allies.
>
> Where citizen particpation and district councils are institutionalized
> into both City's structure here, and funded by the City, in Chicago,
> the modified ward machine still rules, and is occasionally held in line
> by groups of especially feisty neighborhood organizations.  But despite
> the feistiness that existed neighborhood by neighborhood, there wasn't
> a "superstructure" for the kinds of Citywide reform that would have
> improved accountability on a broad level.  The exception being the
> organization I worked for (http://www.ncbg.org), and a couple others.
>
> Acccountability isn't built into the system the way it is here.
> Chicago's system, with its lack of accountability and dependence on
> local power produces a predictable and disturbing result.  City
> investments tend to concentrate disproportionately in the wealthier
> areas of the City, starving the poorer (and often predominantly
> minority) neighborhoods of the most basic funds they need to thrive.
> Industry doesn't locate in places where a prevalence 12' viaducts
> routinely prevent transportational access.  A neighborhood without
> streetlights, or with giant holes in the sidewalk tends to fall apart
> even more.
>
> A secondary threat in Chicago is that Capital Improvement money becomes
> "pork barrel" money.  That is (I suspect) one key reason why we decided
> to inject public scrutiny into the process here, and rightfully so.
>
> ***
>
> The district council role in the CIB process is specifically outlined
> in City Code - the power to appoint a committee that has the power to
> recommend.  Technically, of course, nothing is stopping them district
> councils stepping up to the plate now to make coordinated
> recommendations right now.
>
> But without a nice bump in funding, and a new structure for involvement
> in this budgeting that came in some official capacity, district
> councils engaging a larger budget process wouldn't produce a meaningful
> result.
>
> But if its important to enough knowledgeable citizens to conceive of
> such a process, and actively take on the advocacy for creating it,
> there is no reason that conversation couldn't begin right now.
>
> Bob Spaulding
> Downtown Saint Paul
>
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