Edward,
Really I didn't mean to be harshe. My poor english + all this story...
Anyway. I just want to know what you mean by "project lead".
If it's about coordinating things, managing releases, organizing bugs, doing
some marketing, keeping people up-to-date and organized, well, we certainly
need that. Freddy did some of that job very well, he's been quite a good
representative for us, and the book has made Stripes a lot more popular than
it's ever been. Yes, we might need other profiles than coding monkeys like
the core team currently is (no pun intended), if we want Stripes to be
really popular. Note that I don't really understand why everyone wants this
to happen so badly, but anyway...
On the other hand, if it's about deciding of the future of the framework
without commonn agreement (I'm expecially concerned about the design and
APIs, I don't really care about the markting aspect - again, it works for
me), then we have a problem. As I already said, I believe in consensus.
And if you really need to be the only one deciding for the choices made in
the framework, then fork and do whatever you like. Who knows ? Maybe you'll
eventually come up with a better Stripes, and I'll use yours.
Until then, well, I personally refer sticking to the good old community way,
where everyone has his word to say, and we all try to understand each
other's view. Not only it's productive, I find it very enjoyable :)
Cheers
Remi
2010/9/21 Edward Smith <esm...@peopleanswers.com>
> "Any transfer in stewardship should probably be to a committer, or a
> regular submitter at the very least"
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> +1 from me.
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> Anything else I say on the matter will just confuse things even more.
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> *From:* Brandon Atkinson [mailto:brandon.n.atkin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 21, 2010 1:54 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [Stripes-users] IMPORTANT:: Developing stripes (Future...
> Part DEUX)
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> "I must admit I'm confused as well... starts with a new website and ends up
> in a dictatorship ? This thread's really getting more and more interesting
> :P"
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>
> +1 to that. Love the drama :)
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>
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> Any transfer in stewardship should probably be to a committer, or a regular
> submitter at the very least.
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> Otherwise, just fork, and let the best team win.
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> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:28 PM, VANKEISBELCK Remi <r...@rvkb.com> wrote:
>
> I must admit I'm confused as well... starts with a new website and ends up
> in a dictatorship ? This thread's really getting more and more interesting
> :P
>
> Until now we (stripes users) always have reached consensus. I think the
> whole core team and other "usual suspects" are legit to speak on any
> decision, because they have proven dedication over the years. Even like
> this, nobody never abused, people were always ok to discuss things and not
> impose anything to others by force. Until then, this system has had an
> excellent impact on the quality of the framework.
>
> Now why would Stripes suddenly need a single responsible person as THE
> project lead ?
>
> Don't get me wrong, again, all efforts are appreciated. But just to get
> things clear, what would you do exactly as THE project lead ? What's the
> void you're trying to fill ?
> And most of all, why do you think you need to be the only lead ? What's
> your problem in sharing this responsibility ? Ain't this kind of "proposal"
> at the opposite of the Open Source philosophy (groups of people sharing
> common interests and working together to get things done) ?
>
> Cheers
>
> Remi
>
> 2010/9/21 Edward Smith <esm...@peopleanswers.com>
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>
>
> Evan,
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>
> I am not interested in taking a leading role, I am interested in taking
> *the lead*. Yes, I am aware of how this comes across and no I will not
> apologize for it. As I have stated before, what Stripes needs most is
> leadership, plain and simple.
>
>
>
> If you or anyone else has the capability to lead a project, then great.
> Go for it. Knock yourself out. It sounds like you have some leadership
> acumen so it wouldn't bother me a bit if *you* want to take the reigns. If
> not, then I'm offering my services free of charge to the Stripes community.
> All I'm interested in is that *somebody* do it. Period. This ad hoc crap
> just ain't gonna cut it.
>
>
>
> Ed
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