Freddy, I hear what you're saying.  I think I may have steering things in the 
wrong direction using words like "autocratic". I actually agree with what 
you're saying here, that there is a need for a lead. My question to Ed should 
probably be restated more simply as, "Would you tell us a little bit about how 
you would run things?"  That seems like a fair question to ask I think before 
"voting" or anything like that.  Not to mention that Ben still seems invested 
from his email this morning as well.  (Correct me if I'm wrong Ben).

Evan



On Sep 21, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Freddy Daoud wrote:

> Just my 2c, I hope this doesn't make things "worse" in terms of
> misunderstandings.
> 
>> I am not interested in taking a leading role, I am interested in
>> taking *the lead*.  Yes, I am aware of how this comes across and no I
>> will not apologize for it.  As I have stated before, what Stripes
>> needs most is leadership, plain and simple.
> 
> Personally, I was thrilled when I read Ed's comment. I did not read
> any "dictatorship" into it. All I read was that someone was willing
> to step up to the plate, stating it clearly, no two ways about it.
> I respect that very much.
> 
> I agree that Stripes needs leadership. Again, I don't see this as
> a synonym of "dictatorship", nor an opposite to "consensus". What I
> do see in this is someone, Ed, who has the skill and the will to
> assume the role of Stripes lead.
> 
> This does not mean to rule out other participants. But, IMHO, we
> do *need* someone that decides and makes things happen. Sure,
> it's all teamwork, but at the end of the day, when someone submits
> a patch, asks when the next release will be, asks if a feature
> belongs in the framework, and so on, there has to be *someone*
> who is *committed* to addressing and responding.
> 
> It's not a one-man show. But the problem with a team of
> contributors without someone who is the lead, is that for some
> issues, everyone looks at everyone else and no one responds.
> 
> This is why I applaud Ed's statement that he is willing to take
> on this responsibility for Stripes.
> 
> First on the list, I think, is to plan out the release of
> Stripes 1.5.x and Stripes 1.6, and work from there.
> 
> Again, just my 2c. I hope I didn't create more than resolve
> "conflict", and please also know that I don't mean to speak
> for you, Ed. I'm just expressing what I read into it, and I
> hope it rings true with your intentions. I'm pretty sure you
> didn't mean that you would become a dictator, nor that you
> wouldn't encourage teamwork and healthy discussions about
> Stripes' future.
> 
> Personally, I say thanks, Ed. You have my vote.
> 
> Cheers,
> Freddy
> 
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