Hi, I've just finished my first Struts project, and it's been a great experience on how to do and not to do things. This list has been of great help, as well.
Anyway, I have some comments to make. Please, don't flame me, because it's just a view someone that needs to be productive. I've developed a project some time ago using .Net framework and Visual Studio. Wonderful experience, very very much productive. Creation of a web interface is just a matter of point and click. First impression: "that's what I need for mass production, short 'sell, implement, bill' cycles". Graphical components do keep state during calls, integration is event-oriented, which makes it easy like Visual Basic or Delphi traditional dev. Really easy to learn and use. About Struts: hard to use, lack of good development tools, but years light ahead of pure JSP development. Struts has all the chances of being the way to go. It just needs to be made easier to use, what means: GUI development. I've seen some options: "Eclipse+EasyStruts", StrutsBuilder, StrutsConsole - great tools, but none of them really make GUI+Struts integration easy, they are more like wizards, and need a lot of work yet. Even though, I'm passionate about Java, I need to recognize: M$ really makes UI development a lot easier than Sun/Java/Open Source Community. If you ever developed a VB app and a Swing-based Java app, knows what I mean. The point is: M$ approach is make it easy, our approach is make it generic, and conceptually beautiful. M$ approach is "sell it, do it fast with small costs, have more profit". I haven't read the entire JSF spec, but I've seen the tutorial, and as far as I understand it, JSF does not make programming UI interface much easier than Struts. Any comments? The matter is: I have a family, and want to get home earlier, not 4:00AM. A lot of philosophy and online psychoterapy for FRIDAY, but... :) Cheers, Elderclei R Reami Vertis Tecnologia +55 11 3887-0835 www.vertisnet.com.br -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

