Any developer's relationship with their technology vendor has 3 requirements: 1)Distribute the technology for free to developers so the developer can learn it and implement real world solutions for paying customers .. 2)The Vendor should Implement their technology with the appropriate amount of granularity that a developer will require. 3)Painless migration from the original technology platform e.g. take a look at the most basic development requirements such as threading and tell us which technology supports thread handling which you and I will need to satisfy the customer.. Regards, -Martin Gainty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frans Thamura, Intercitra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 12:00 AM Subject: Re: .NET: We are just like Struts... only better.
> yah, M$ and Bill is arogan, they never give the fans a space, i think > they hurting us again, if we are using .NET offcourse. > > THis case smiliar with mvps.org case, :) never supported by Microsoft, > even they are using Microsoft product. > > So, how about you? > > Joe Hertz wrote: > > >It was left handed bashing. To paraphrase- > > > >"Bill was announcing .NET when Struts was only a glimmer in Craig's eye". > > > >"Microsoft is committed to .NET and therefore .NET is Windows. With > >Struts/J2EE you are at the mercy of whoever develops the implementation of > >the Servlet Container, et al, or maybe one day does a bad job, or stops > >entirely maybe". > > > >I chuckled at the 2nd line of thought. Most of us consider this a benefit of > >J2EE Dev. But it also implies this wasn't potentially a problem with .NET and > >Windows. To para-paraphrase, "We ARE the implementation, therefore however it > >works it how it works. We dont need no steeeeenking BugZilla. Grunt Grunt. > >Competition bad.". > > > > > > > >>I didn't notice any bashing going on. I found it to be a pretty good > >>article pointing out high level differences between developing with Struts > >>vs. an ASP.NET approach. From an agnostic approach, it was a pretty good > >>article. > >> > >> > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > > Frans Thamura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Chief Technology Officer > Intercitra Innovation Center > We help you manage and control > http://www.intercitra.com > > HP: +62 - 855 - 7888 - 699 > Address: > Cempaka Putih Tengah II Blok C No. 21 > Jakarta Utara - Indonesia > > Telp: +62 21 4260933 > > Welcome to Emotional Transformation Century. > > ---------- www.jug.or.id ----------- > ------------------------------------- > Bergabunglah dengan 3 juta Programmer Java diseluruh dunia dengan > berbergabung ke JUG Indonesia. > > Untuk subscribe email aja ke [EMAIL PROTECTED] > atau kunjungi http://www.jug.or.id > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

