but still, I'm not dragging and dropping html form controls (or struts-html.tld taglib controls) to a
designer screen, linking code and compiling. I believe that various IDEs are beginning to allow this. I saw a demonstration of a Sun's Forte at a Java User Group, a while ago, and they were dropping and dragging JATO taglibs. WebLogic Workshop can apparently allow this using Struts. I don't know if any of this qualifies as decent programming, however. Nick -----Original Message----- From: Craig Tataryn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 29 December 2003 12:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: .NET: We are just like Struts... only better. It's kind of a catch .22, I use struts on projects that make money for me. If someone started taking my projects and replicating them for free, I would probably have a problem with it :) Although in this case, MS did not have a Struts to begin with. ASP.net is sweet, but only because the development environent makes it sweet. If we can get the same RAD functionality out of Eclipse w/ JSF and perhaps Flex, then we'll really be cooking. Although Struts is a wonderful thing, I still look at web development with J2EE as a bit of a tedious thing. Well, actually now that I have a pretty robust taglib built, not so tedious, but still, I'm not dragging and dropping html form controls (or struts-html.tld taglib controls) to a designer screen, linking code and compiling. I have to do it all by hand :( Let's hope Eclipse VE adopts a JSF designer! Craig W. Tataryn >From: "Frans Thamura, Intercitra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: .NET: We are just like Struts... only better. >Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 23:57:08 -0500 > >I think this article will explain that Microsoft is not support Open Source >community, M$ only support people that want to support money, :) > >Our War Money Chest is bigger than all of you all the Java guys (including >the Open Source). > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] how can M$ have that money? > >So, this mean we all must wake up, :) to make our product more user >friendly, and make everyone can learn it, update it, and make it perfect. > >ASP.net is a product based, Struts is a spiritual lovely project. They >cannot compare it. > >But if ASP.net can be compare with MVC not with Struts. :) sad to hear that >if we port Struts to .NET, Microsoft wont support it, because they said, we >include it in ASP.net already. > >What do you think? > >Frans > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin .msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

