Hello Warren,

Lets start again :

Latitude = 42
Inclination of dial = 90
Declination of dial = 64

Calculated:
style height v = -19.01
substyle at b = -135.05
longitude correction ts = 71.93

Now we have to deal with a horizontal azimuthal sundial at low latitude :
19.01S, that is even between the tropics.
This will give problems with the hourlines if the sun's declination is near
or
lower then -19.01 degrees.
( that is about half november untill end january )
During that period some hourlines will cross each other and you can't get a
good reading of the time.
To show this I calculated an example for lat. -19.01.
This example is for local suntime, just to show the effect.
( Only one half of the dial is in the picture. Mirror this side to get the
full dial )
So I think that your wall isn't very suitable for such an azimuthal dial,
with a style perpendicular to the wall.

In stead of using the azimuth of 19.01 degrees South use your own azimuth by
making a dial with a vertical style parallel to your wall.
As date lines you could use horizontal parallel lines.

Remark :
Spin.exe as distributed can't calculate dials between latitude 25N and 25S.
These restrictions were made because of the shown problems.

Happy dialling, Fer.

Fer J. de Vries
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.iae.nl/users/ferdv/
Eindhoven, Netherlands
lat.  51:30 N      long.  5:30 E

----- Original Message -----
From: Warren Thom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: fer j. de vries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Sundial List <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: R: azimuthal gnomon length problem


> Hi Fer,
>
> Thank you for checking my question.  My instincts have told me that a dial
on a
> vertical surface with a perpendicular style was possible, even if
azimuthal
> might not be the best name for it.
>
> You were correct - my numbers were wrong.  I should have said the wall was
26
> degrees south of west or 64 degrees west of south.  I checked this out
with your
> program and I get the height of style to be about -19 degrees.  I have
checked
> the declination of the wall several times and I have gotten between 25 and
26
> degrees.  I think 25 might have given a style (or latitude where
horizontal) of
> around -18 degrees.  It was by observation of the wall that I found the
error.
> I can look for the North star "through" the wall, and I knew the angle was
> around 15- 20 but never as much as 40 degrees to the surface.  Also, about
now
> 4pm is not far from a normal to the surface - but the design you sent -
the time
> was about 1pm.  Sorry for my error.
>
> I do have a 4 foot by 8 foot piece of nice "sign" board to make this dial.
I
> must wait for warm weather to paint because my work area is inside the
unheated
> garage.  I look forward to the project.  Thank you for the help.
>
> Sincerely - Warren Thom
>
>
> "fer j. de vries" wrote:
>
> > I read :
> > latitude 42N
> > vertical dial, that is inclination 90 degrees
> > declination of dial 26 degrees from South to West
> >
> > I calculate :
> > The height of style ( for a usual dial ) than is : v = -41.91 degrees.
> > This equals to a horizontal dial at latitude 41.91S. ( not 18 as you
wrote )
> > Where is the error ?????
> > These values may be calculated with Zonwvlak.
>
>




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