First off, I'm disinclined to respond to mail
which was sent to an individual and then posted to
a list without permission. That's just rude,
whether it's personal or business mail.
I didn't have enough facts at the time I wrote that
mail to share, which is why I didn't send it to the
list.
I know of no way to force new firmware onto these
units, which were not designed for general
end-user sale. This is the first we've heard of
these units on the open market, hopefully very few
of them will surface.
I believe they were intended for use in a country
that wanted to use their own firmware with their
own cryptography. They were designed to not
accept Sun firmware for this reason by special
request of the OEM. I wasn't directly involved in
this deal, but this is my understanding from what
I heard. I believe we've only made such a deal
once, but at least in theory it could happen again
in future.
Personal opinion:
When you buy something from an unknown third
party you take a risk. You must realize this. You
should anticipate that some number of items you
receive will be broken, and some number unusable
for whatever reason. You should take all these
risks into account, including whatever return
policy is promised and whatever reputation you can
glean of the seller and state of goods, before you
evaluate whether paying the price and taking
the risk is acceptable to you.
-Bob
Opinions expressed are mine, not my employers.
The Loeki wrote:
On 8/28/06, Bob Doolittle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Craig Bender wrote:
> Where did you get that 170 from?
Yes - this is a very important question.
This looks like firmware that Sun Ray engineering
created especially for a particular OEM to provide
to a specific customer of theirs.
They will not upgrade to standard production firmware.
They were never intended to be released generally.
Where do you get these? If we have an OEM slipping up
and giving these out generally we need to fix that...
What company received these?
I don't think that's what's happening here. I've got them off of a
surplus trading company in the US on e-Bay.
I thought something would be fishy (it was a rather good deal ;-) ),
and here you are...
Is there no way to brutally force the firmware into the unit? As I
mentioned, from the outside these look just like 170's, there's no
clue that they are non-standard (which is the reason it took me so
long to find this out, we've got them for a couple of months now).
They arrived in the official packaging too, with Sun documentation and
everything, so it's rather odd...
-Bob
>
> The Loeki wrote:
>> Hello everybody!
>>
>> On a Solaris 10 on USparc w/SRSS 3.1 and patch rev.4 I've got some
>> 170's that just won't update their firmware...
>>
>> I've tried
>> utfwadm -A -a -F
>> to get them to upgrade, which worked perfectly fine for the Sun Ray
>> 1's, but the 170's don't respond.
>>
>> utfwload
>> gives the following output (snipped):
>> 13.0 user1 192.168.128.36 P2.0003ba11a484
>> 3.1_120879-04_2006.06.22.15.58
>> 15.0 user2 192.168.128.34 OEMRayP7.0003bad74dac
>> MfgPkg_3.32,nocrypt-03,REV=2005.06.03.15.20
>>
>> I'm guessing this "OEMRayP7" string is my problem, so I tried
>> utfwadm -A -e <mac> -F -f /opt/SUNWut/lib/firmware/CoronaP7
>> But it's totally ignoring me.
>>
>> Does anybody have any idea how to get these 170's to upgrade?
>> AFAICT they're just stock 170's with Sun logo on them and everything,
>> not some OEM manufacturer's variety.
>>
>> Any help and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ronald
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