At 18:11 -0500 03/28/2002, Nancy L Haitz wrote:

>Jeff's mention of a "wiring closed" got me thinking.

Heh, heh.  My "wiring closet" is actually the space above the shelf 
in the entry-way/living room coat closet.  There's all that space 
above the coat hanging rod which is normally just used to store stuff 
that folks forget about.  So I mounted my patch panels on the walls 
around the inside of the closet above that shelf.  I also installed 
an electrical outlet in the closet, and the ethernet hub and 
Ethernet-LocalTalk Bridge sit on the shelf and are powered at that 
outlet.  If I get high speed access my router will go in there too. 
I wired the house for coax at the same time and all the coax lines 
terminate in the same closet as well.  So cable modem or DSL, I can 
put the router in that closet and distribute the service from there.

>  Does ethernet
>wiring, such as Cat-5 degrade if run through a couple of junction boxes?

In general you want as few breaks in your cabling as possible.  Each 
break from continuous cable degrades your signal a little.  However, 
it can apparently tolerate quite a few such breaks, as there are many 
just between a computer and a router.  The ethernet card jack 
contains a plug.  The plug is crimped on the cable.  The cable is 
continuous to the other plug.  That plug is in another jack.  The 
jack is soldered to a circuit board in the hub or switch.  Many many 
breaks.

>  Our old house has primarily brick walls, inside and out.  Ron was able
>to rewire the first floor electric from the basement.  He planned to
>redo the second floor electric by building a small chase from the
>basement to the attic, and running wires in the chase.  Then rewire
>second floor rooms from the attic.  Pulling a continuous cable that
>distance would require more physical strength than humanly possible.

I'm not sure of the antecedent for "that" in the last sentence.   It 
might work best to have a first floor and a second floor "wiring 
closet".  Put everything on the first floor on one hub or switch. 
Put everything on the second floor on a separate hub or switch.  Then 
run as many lines between the first floor and second floor wiring 
closets as are practicle (in your chase?) and use that to connect 
what needs connecting.  Even if you had only one data line from first 
to second floor, you could connect the "uplink port" of one hub to a 
data port on the other hub so that all machines on first and second 
floor can see each other.

I guess you'd also want one line between floors per telephone line in 
the house, so that you can put extensions for any phone line on 
either floor by patching them in the wiring closets.

>Does anybody know... If we did a couple of junction boxes are we
>degrading the service?  And, what kinds of interference do you get it
>you run electrical, phone and Cat-5 in the same conduit?

You definitely do not want to run electrical line in the same conduit 
with data lines.  That's a formula for big interference, so says the 
popular wisdom and (I think) the physics.  I haven't had a problem 
with it myself, but I also followed the rule.  My data lines don't 
run parallel to any power lines (at least not within a couple of 
feet) and where they must cross, they cross at as close to a right 
angle as possible.

Jeff Walther


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