>>Nancy wrote:
>>
>>I have the Apple version of that card in my 9600.  I found that the ATI
>>extensions that come with OS 9.1 improved the performance of the card
>>for me.
>
>Gary wrote:
>
> Does that mean I use the ATI extensions *instead* of the Twin Turbo 
> ones? Should I try removing all vestiges of Twin Turbo 
> extentions/startups and rely on the 9.1 ATI stuff?
>
> Will S wrote:
> 
> Nancy, are you sure the Twin Turbo is running on the ATI extensions?
> I'd be surprised if it is. There are build in ex for the Apple
> version of the card and the cards do run with no extensions loaded.
> Did you try running without the ATI extensions loaded to see if it
> makes a difference? It would be interesting if they do run the
> card.

Gary & Will,

I am by no means an expert on the Twin Turbo. Here is what I remember
about my brief history/experience with the card.

When I purchased the 9600 (used) it came with the Apple version of the
Twin Turbo.  That was the only choice for connecting a monitor, as the
regular monitor port had never been wired, and was blocked. (The monitor
connection "punch out" was still in place on the case)

I reformated the drive and installed OS 8.6. The TT card was basically
useless.  It would power the monitor, but there was no visible
indication that it speeded up anything. I did a lot of checking on the
web for drivers.  I found out that ixMicro was out of business, etc. 
None of the various drivers I tried improved the performance.  I was
then, and still am, using an Apple 17" AV Monitor with the 9600.

When I decided to upgrade to OS 9.1 I also ordered one of the Radeon Mac
Edition PCI cards, as the 9600 seemed really slow at screen refresh, as
compared to the c600. I installed OS 9.1 first.  That made the Twin
Turbo come to life.  Screen refresh rates were much faster in programs
like PhotoShop.

I don't have any specific explaination... it was a happy accident kind
of improvement.

The only graphic acceleration extensions in my system are ATI ones. 
Remembering that I also have a Radeon Mac Edition card installed, here
are the nine extensions in my active extensions folder: ATI 3D
Acceleration, ATI Driver Update, ATI Graphics Acceleration, ATI MPP
Manager, ATI Radeon 3D Acceleration, ATI Resource Manager, ATI ROM
Xtension, ATI Video Acceleration, ATI Video Digitizer. (These three are
in the disabled extensions: ATI Extension, ATI Mac2TV Monitor, ATI Rage
128 3D Accelerator) 

The one labeled ATI Graphics Acceleration looks just like the old
Graphics Acceleration extension that gets installed in an 8500 or 9600
(and maybe others) when the installer detected the presence of an Apple
Twin Turbo card.  So, I suspect it is the one haveing the biggest effect
on the Twin Turbo.  However, I don't really know.

Right now, I have a 15" Apple Multiple Scan monitor hooked up to the TT
card.  I have a choice of 4 recommended resolutions.

I hope that answers some questions.  

Gary, Dusan's comments about powering up the monitor before the computer
definitely makes a difference in my setup too.

Nancy

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