> On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 08:48 PM, Eric J. Leopold wrote:
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> On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 07:36 PM, Will Schou wrote:
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>  Still waiting for the root device. Any ideas about
> other options to get this install unstuck?
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> Eric
> Thanks for the reply Will. What is the throttle? The CD -ROM is a new
> 24x Mashita and it's visable in 9.1 and mounts the X disc. So when
> you're installs stall, you just restart and restart? Do you dump any
> files that were written to disk or let the installer write over them?
> Gotta find out about this throttle. Thanks.
> Eric
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> Oh! The throttle is found in XPF!!
> Eric
        
Yes,you found it! It runs from 1-24 with 24 being the most throttle. 
What it does is slow down the G3/4 upgrade during the booting process 
then goes to full speed once it is booted. The reason for this is some 
upgrades move to the next step before the hard disk starts up and when 
this happens it won't boot. This can be a cause of the waiting for root 
message. I'm using an XLR8 Carrier Ziff 500mhz  over-clocked to 550mhz. 
No problems booting with my old SCSI drive but the ATA/66 card seems to 
boot the IDE drives slower so the problem showed up. One drive works 
best with 8-12 throttle my new seagate seems to need 24 to boot most 
everytime.
        Yes, I just keep force rebooting until I get past the waiting  for 
root message since I know I have a CD rom player that works. It 
sometimes takes 3-5 times for an install. After the install it will 
boot the first time most of the time. This is more of a problem with 
the ATA drives then it was with the SCSI drives on my machine. Also 
Verbose mode will often work when regular booting won't. This is also 
an XPFacto setting. You can either set it that way or just hold down 
Apple and v key when booting.As soon as you see words on the screen you 
can let the keys go. Every machine seems to be a bit different but I 
think usually we find that there is a small hardware or software 
difference in the machines that work differently. OSX is way more fussy 
then MacOS 8/9 but it's great once you get it to work.


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