On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 09:18  PM, Will Schou wrote:

>> On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 08:48 PM, Eric J. Leopold wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 07:36 PM, Will Schou wrote:
>>
>> Snip
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>>  Still waiting for the root device. Any ideas about
>> other options to get this install unstuck?
>>
>> snip
>>
>> Eric
>> Thanks for the reply Will. What is the throttle? The CD -ROM is a new
>> 24x Mashita and it's visable in 9.1 and mounts the X disc. So when
>> you're installs stall, you just restart and restart? Do you dump any
>> files that were written to disk or let the installer write over them?
>> Gotta find out about this throttle. Thanks.
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>> Oh! The throttle is found in XPF!!
>> Eric
>       
> Yes,you found it! It runs from 1-24 with 24 being the most throttle.
> What it does is slow down the G3/4 upgrade during the booting process
> then goes to full speed once it is booted. The reason for this is some
> upgrades move to the next step before the hard disk starts up and when
> this happens it won't boot. This can be a cause of the waiting for root
> message. I'm using an XLR8 Carrier Ziff 500mhz  over-clocked to 550mhz.
> No problems booting with my old SCSI drive but the ATA/66 card seems to
> boot the IDE drives slower so the problem showed up. One drive works
> best with 8-12 throttle my new seagate seems to need 24 to boot most
> everytime.
>       Yes, I just keep force rebooting until I get past the waiting  for
> root message since I know I have a CD rom player that works. It
> sometimes takes 3-5 times for an install. After the install it will
> boot the first time most of the time. This is more of a problem with
> the ATA drives then it was with the SCSI drives on my machine. Also
> Verbose mode will often work when regular booting won't. This is also
> an XPFacto setting. You can either set it that way or just hold down
> Apple and v key when booting.As soon as you see words on the screen you
> can let the keys go. Every machine seems to be a bit different but I
> think usually we find that there is a small hardware or software
> difference in the machines that work differently. OSX is way more fussy
> then MacOS 8/9 but it's great once you get it to work.
>

Thanks Will. I took the easy way out. I switched CD ROM players from 
one S900 to my other S900. That worked or I should say is now 
installing. The CD player (new) that failed had installed OS 9.1 and 
ran other install SW. Actually this new CD player has a different face 
plate and there's no light, volume control or headphone jack. Fry's was 
a wash as far as CD player shopping goes but they were kind enough to 
tell me to go to a Mac store down the street. I'd never been there 
before and only had a vague idea about the store. 1-800 WE Fix macs is 
a hole in the wall store on El Camino in Palo Alto but they do sell 
Sonnet hardware like the 800 MHz version and mainly fix Macs like $ 45 
to install a ram stick. I should be filthy rich by now! Naw, it's for 
the jollys. Thanks.
Eric


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