> From: "Aughenbaugh, W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:02:15 -0700
> On Thursday, November 14, 2002 3:30 AM, Eric J. Leopold responded to 
> Will
> Schou:
>
> Thanks Will. A new install every few days? Now I don't feel bad. Eric

I'm always trying new apps adding things etc. This was nearly always 
sure to screw things up with older versions of OSX. Jaguar is much more 
stable!
> Hi Eric,
>
> I wouldn't be too concerned with Norton complaining about X. My 
> experience
> has been (with Classic MacOS back to 7.x) that Norton Disk Doctor 
> (formerly
> CPS) always finds something to complain about. I usually run Norton 
> DD, let
> it fix bundle bits, creations dates, etc. and then run it again. That 
> is the
> ONLY time you will see Norton run error free.
snips taken...
> Given that NDD isn't really 'made for X', (nor is DiskWarrior), it's 
> hard to
> get excited about the minor errors. I would tend to trust DiskWarrior 
> more
> for directory repair, although to be safest, one should run Apple's 
> Disk
> First Aid, then DiskWarrior, and finally NDD. I typically try to do 
> this
> every 3 or 4 months, given a small number of crashes, and any time the
> machine seems to be unstable.
>
> If Jaguar or 10.1.x includes fsck, it might be worth while determining 
> if it
> works with AFS. fsck is the unix file system checker, but it may not 
> have
> been updated to check Apple's file system.

I agree Norton always finds something wrong. I don't use it as much 
anymore. Any Norton 6. version can be upgraded to 6.03 for free and 
that is the oldest version that should be used with Jaguar. 6.04 is the 
current version of Norton Disk DR. but it's not a free upgrade. Norton 
Speed disk on the other hand is a great product. Jaguar being Unix 
doesn't show all that much difference after being defragged compared to 
Classic Mac. But not a bad idea once in a while.After an install is a 
good time for some reason the install really seems to mess things up.
DiskWarrier  has no issues at all with OSX other then the CD won't boot 
from OSX so you have to run it from OS 9 or boot from the CD from 
within OS. It is the best Mac repair utility available IMHO. The 
booting issues is a non issue with OldWorld Macs as they can not boot 
CD's from OSX anyway. Ryan is going to try and fix this with a future 
version of XPFacto.
Thanks for mentioning fsck which perhaps not many people know about. 
Yes, it works just fine with OSX. You boot into single user mode. Which 
is done by holding down the Apple and s keys while booting. Then when 
the lines of type stop. You type: fsck  or fsck -y if you want it to 
auto do repairs. If it finds any errors or makes repairs you run it 
again until you get a message saying the disk appears to be ok. Then 
you type: logout and it boots normally. As is usual with Unix there are 
other commands that do the same thing but that is how I use it. later 
Will S


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