Didn't know Sonnet could do that for me Pete... I was aware only of the
limitations I refered to before... I'll have to do some more homework on the
new Sonnet options. Thanks...

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> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 03:56:15 +0900
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> Subject: Re: [SM] my daughter's S900
> 
> Eric, I think you are under the misapprehension that those chips were like
> older G4 upgrades for PCI machines only having a chip capable of
> acceleration to 9x system bus.  The new G4 chips (#7455) in the Sonnet
> G4800/PCI upgrade are capable of 16x.
> 
> Assuming a 50MHz system bus for our machines:
> 9 x 50 = 450MHz
> 16 x 50 = 800 MHz
> 
> Some S900/J700s will not go much past 50MHz, while others are capable of
> close to 60MHz.  While the Sonnet chips do not tend to be as overclockable
> or adjustable as the other upgrade makers cards, there is a Japanese thrill
> seeker who got his S900 to run one of these Sonnet G4800/PCI upgrades close
> to 1Ghz by running the system bus at 60 MHz
> <http://www.sevencolors.net/mocw/cpu/cpu02.htm>.  He used extra cooling, and
> claims it was stable, but of course such overclocking runs the risk of doing
> damage to the CPU chip and Sonnet wouldn't warranty such thrill seeking.
> However, the point is that once the prices come down on these upgrades, then
> there is no reason that an S900/J700 owner couldn't squeeze a few more years
> worth out of their machines.  Admittedly system bus, PCI, memory, and ATA
> controller speeds in newer machines mean that you are not going to get the
> exact same speed as a newer machine, but for a fraction of the cost of one
> of the newer machines you still get CPU speed that is not too shabby that
> should be able to handle the demands of most new OSs and applications.
> 
> I just wish Powerlogix would manufacture a similar G4 upgrade for the PCI
> Macs, as they tend to make chips that are much more overclockable with
> greater range of setting possibilities, however in recent press releases
> they have stated that for PCI Macs they will only be making G3 upgrades at
> those higher speeds, as there is not much difference in real world speed
> increase between G3 and G4 CPUs for these machines, and they also say that
> there is some insurmountable problem about getting these speeds for G4 in
> PCI Macs.  If Sonnet can do it then not quite sure why Powerlogix can't, but
> there you go.  If in the next year or so the Sonnet upgrades come down $100
> to $150, then one or both of my S900s is likely to get either the Sonnet G4
> 700 (bit cheaper than the 800) or the 800 MHz upgrade.
> 
> Cheers, Pete.
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:35:52 -0500
>> From: "Eric B. Haulenbeek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
>> The Sonnet G4/800 upgrade is fine as long as you understand that that S900
>> can't run anything much faster than 450mH through it's small system bus...
>> your better off spending less money and staying in that 400 to 450 mH range,
>> which really 'aint too shabby!
> 
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