Hey Will, > ...Works fine as long as I don't add the 5th drive. I guess I should try it after unhooking a few things and see if that makes a diff. I haven't really increased the demand but it's worth a try.
> The machines you tested in are both much newer machines with USB and firewire > built in I'd think. A number of external USB and firewire drives say right on > the box made for machines with built in ports. (firewire or USB) I'm going to > guess our old machines with add on USB and Firewire cards may not be up to the > task of PCI bus powering some external drives which pull more power then say > something really small. My prior firewire enclosure worked fine with only bus power right up until I zapped my machine. After that, the problems began. >The fix for our machines would be a Powered hub! OWC > and likely others have a dual Firewire & USB powered hub. I've been using a usb powered hub and get the same result. My firewire card is also molex powered as well but I remember just buying that card about a month before the zap, worked fine bus powered with my other enclosure before zap and didn't afterwards. I used the prior laptop drive mini enclosure for about 6 months before the zap so I know that this machine can power them fine bus powered. The 'Q' is, why not now after it was zapped? My PS doesn't get hot to the touch for what that's worth. > I also seem to remember you moving to another machine when you had firewire > problems before and it didn't work either. Seems unlikely 2 machines would > have the same defect. I'd go with the powered hub. I'm having a little trouble remembering but now I vaguely remember that when I swapped between machines, I 'may' have not switched over entirely. Thing is I may have only switched over the PS to my present machine, that or I tried a few different scenarios but my point is, now I don't remember if I am using 'all' of the whole new box. Could have swapped back my PS too? Yeah, worthless info. :) > > Well in several ways the Umax machine is a more versatile machine then the > Beige G3. More PCI slots and more room for drives and better air flow. Also > currently fully supported in Panther while many of the Apple machines still > have issues ;-) You could pull the G3 Zif off that Carrier card and plug it > directly into the beige G3 . The beige g3 has a jumper block on the > motherboard for setting bus and multiplier speeds. I could dig up a chart if > needed. Will S I would definitely prefer to bring my s900 back up to par instead of moving over everything to the beige anyhow as my primary. Especially since I have two s900's here to work with. It's very possible that my mobo got zapped and is telling the PS to not send as much power to the various components so I may just put everything into the other tower and see what happens. I do believe a few things did get zapped back then, after all, it did assassinate the drive. I'd say 100% that my firewire card was also somewhat damaged if were not for the fact that this brand new usb card also doesn't quite get enough power to the drive. So it's probably a reduced amount of power getting to the components, the question is Why? (OF course that doesn't mean my FW card isn't damaged some too) So today I'll first try disconnecting a few things, see how that goes, and if no change I'll swap machines over entirely. Also looks like all the Smalldog $7 Power Supplies are gone so if that's the culprit I'll have to find one elsewhere as well but we'll rule it out first. Thanks Will, Dave -- SuperMacs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | Service & Replacement Parts [EMAIL PROTECTED] | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> SuperMacs list info: <http://lowendmac.com/supermacs/list.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/supermacs%40mail.maclaunch.com/> --------------------------------------------------------------- >The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---------------------------------------------------------------
