On 8/31/10 5:41 AM, Phillip Jones wrote:
> Ed Mullen wrote:
>> David E. Ross wrote:
>>> On 8/30/10 1:54 PM, Ron Hunter wrote:
>>>> On 8/30/2010 12:13 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
>>>>> On 8/30/10 7:35 AM, Ant wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/29/2010 3:54 PM PT, David E. Ross typed:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have the PrefBar extension installed for SeaMonkey.  I use the
>>>>>>> JavaScript checkbox to disable JavaScript whenever I view the Huffington
>>>>>>> Post, not because of what happens to navigation arrows but because of
>>>>>>> the annoying same-window popups.  I also disable JavaScript for several
>>>>>>> other news Web sites for the same reason.  The only problem is
>>>>>>> remembering to enable JavaScript before I visit a page where it is
>>>>>>> really needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Strange, I don't get pop-ups there but then I do use AdBlock Plus. Is
>>>>>> there a way to white and black lists web sites for JS? But then other
>>>>>> features on those web sites would break. Ugh!
>>>>>
>>>>> The "popups" are not advertisements; they are not even true popups.
>>>>> They are in the form of large tool-tips, comments on the item over which
>>>>> the cursor is hovering.  Thus, AdBlock Plus (which I too use) will not
>>>>> block them.  Although they are not ads, they are very annoying because
>>>>> they often hide adjacent content.
>>>>>
>>>> My own personal definition of a 'popup' is ANYTHING that appears over
>>>> already present display information that is not requested by the user.
>>>> It really doesn't matter if it is advertisement, or not.  If it obscures
>>>> content, and is not requested, then it is a popup.  It appears that
>>>> Firefox devs need to reassess the current state of such distractions to
>>>> see if they can be prevented.  This is just another of those 'arms
>>>> races' where advertisers, and others, seek to override the user's
>>>> preferences as to how they view content.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I visit a number of Web pages where the tooltip type of "popup" happens
>>> to be important.
>>>
>>> Go to<http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/>.  Hover your cursor over a tropical
>>> storm.  You will get a popup that provides a summary about that storm.
>>> Currently, at<http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/index.shtml?epac>, the map shows
>>> a low-pressure area that is not yet a storm.  The popup for that
>>> low-pressure area provides an estimated probability of whether it will
>>> become a tropical storm.
>>>
>>
>> Nice example of a "good" use of the function.  Unfortunately, it is all
>> to often sorely abused.
>>
> Doesn't SM And Firefox both have pop-up blockers? and aren't they 
> already setup so you can white list legit Pop-ups such as for example 
> the weather websites.
> 
> Only item I woul love to permanent kill is the NetFlix ad opens every 
> time you open another website. I believe they have infiltrated  the 
> various sites without knowledge of the website owner. For example cNet, 
> ZDnet, and Computerworld news. as long as your on the main page fine (it 
> already has small ads which ignore). But as soon as I go to read an 
> article, bam!, up comes the NetFix ad, and the only way I can get rid of 
> it, is use back arrow to go back one page. then it doesn't show up any 
> more that session.
> 
> In order to stop it  it stops all Pop ups or pop overs . The way I'd 
> like to see it work. As soon as one of these things comes up, a message 
> would appear from SM or FF do you wish to ban forever the pop 
> up/popover. click yes/ or know the message would never show up again. if 
> you answered yes it woul be permanently block if no, no action would be 
> taken.
> 

The popup blocker in the Gecko-based browsers blocks actual popups,
which are separate pages.  What I have been trying to describe are more
like tooltips within the page you are viewing.

Did you visit the National Hurricane Center pages I cited?  If so, did
you hover your cursor over the storms shown on the maps?

-- 

David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>.

Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive
bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation.
© 1997 by David E. Ross
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