On 8/31/10 1:37 PM, Ron Hunter wrote: > On 8/31/2010 9:56 AM, David E. Ross wrote: >> On 8/31/10 5:41 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: >>> Ed Mullen wrote: >>>> David E. Ross wrote: >>>>> On 8/30/10 1:54 PM, Ron Hunter wrote: >>>>>> On 8/30/2010 12:13 PM, David E. Ross wrote: >>>>>>> On 8/30/10 7:35 AM, Ant wrote: >>>>>>>> On 8/29/2010 3:54 PM PT, David E. Ross typed: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have the PrefBar extension installed for SeaMonkey. I use the >>>>>>>>> JavaScript checkbox to disable JavaScript whenever I view the >>>>>>>>> Huffington >>>>>>>>> Post, not because of what happens to navigation arrows but because of >>>>>>>>> the annoying same-window popups. I also disable JavaScript for >>>>>>>>> several >>>>>>>>> other news Web sites for the same reason. The only problem is >>>>>>>>> remembering to enable JavaScript before I visit a page where it is >>>>>>>>> really needed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Strange, I don't get pop-ups there but then I do use AdBlock Plus. Is >>>>>>>> there a way to white and black lists web sites for JS? But then other >>>>>>>> features on those web sites would break. Ugh! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The "popups" are not advertisements; they are not even true popups. >>>>>>> They are in the form of large tool-tips, comments on the item over which >>>>>>> the cursor is hovering. Thus, AdBlock Plus (which I too use) will not >>>>>>> block them. Although they are not ads, they are very annoying because >>>>>>> they often hide adjacent content. >>>>>>> >>>>>> My own personal definition of a 'popup' is ANYTHING that appears over >>>>>> already present display information that is not requested by the user. >>>>>> It really doesn't matter if it is advertisement, or not. If it obscures >>>>>> content, and is not requested, then it is a popup. It appears that >>>>>> Firefox devs need to reassess the current state of such distractions to >>>>>> see if they can be prevented. This is just another of those 'arms >>>>>> races' where advertisers, and others, seek to override the user's >>>>>> preferences as to how they view content. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I visit a number of Web pages where the tooltip type of "popup" happens >>>>> to be important. >>>>> >>>>> Go to<http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/>. Hover your cursor over a tropical >>>>> storm. You will get a popup that provides a summary about that storm. >>>>> Currently, at<http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/index.shtml?epac>, the map shows >>>>> a low-pressure area that is not yet a storm. The popup for that >>>>> low-pressure area provides an estimated probability of whether it will >>>>> become a tropical storm. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Nice example of a "good" use of the function. Unfortunately, it is all >>>> to often sorely abused. >>>> >>> Doesn't SM And Firefox both have pop-up blockers? and aren't they >>> already setup so you can white list legit Pop-ups such as for example >>> the weather websites. >>> >>> Only item I woul love to permanent kill is the NetFlix ad opens every >>> time you open another website. I believe they have infiltrated the >>> various sites without knowledge of the website owner. For example cNet, >>> ZDnet, and Computerworld news. as long as your on the main page fine (it >>> already has small ads which ignore). But as soon as I go to read an >>> article, bam!, up comes the NetFix ad, and the only way I can get rid of >>> it, is use back arrow to go back one page. then it doesn't show up any >>> more that session. >>> >>> In order to stop it it stops all Pop ups or pop overs . The way I'd >>> like to see it work. As soon as one of these things comes up, a message >>> would appear from SM or FF do you wish to ban forever the pop >>> up/popover. click yes/ or know the message would never show up again. if >>> you answered yes it woul be permanently block if no, no action would be >>> taken. >>> >> >> The popup blocker in the Gecko-based browsers blocks actual popups, >> which are separate pages. What I have been trying to describe are more >> like tooltips within the page you are viewing. >> >> Did you visit the National Hurricane Center pages I cited? If so, did >> you hover your cursor over the storms shown on the maps? >> > I think the point is that the USER should be able to decide if he/she > wants these things obscuring what is being displayed, NOT the website > designer. I would like the ability to banish such popups, even if some > people find them helpful, should that suit my fancy. >
They are banished if you disable JavaScript. As I indicated earlier in this thread, toggling between enabled and disabled is easy with the JavaScript checkbox on the PrefBar toolbar. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/>. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross _______________________________________________ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey