On 8/31/2010 9:00 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:
Ron Hunter wrote:
On 8/31/2010 9:56 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 8/31/10 5:41 AM, Phillip Jones wrote:
Ed Mullen wrote:
David E. Ross wrote:
On 8/30/10 1:54 PM, Ron Hunter wrote:
On 8/30/2010 12:13 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 8/30/10 7:35 AM, Ant wrote:
On 8/29/2010 3:54 PM PT, David E. Ross typed:
I have the PrefBar extension installed for SeaMonkey. I use the
JavaScript checkbox to disable JavaScript whenever I view the
Huffington
Post, not because of what happens to navigation arrows but
because of
the annoying same-window popups. I also disable JavaScript for
several
other news Web sites for the same reason. The only problem is
remembering to enable JavaScript before I visit a page where
it is
really needed.
Strange, I don't get pop-ups there but then I do use AdBlock
Plus. Is
there a way to white and black lists web sites for JS? But then
other
features on those web sites would break. Ugh!
The "popups" are not advertisements; they are not even true popups.
They are in the form of large tool-tips, comments on the item
over which
the cursor is hovering. Thus, AdBlock Plus (which I too use) will
not
block them. Although they are not ads, they are very annoying
because
they often hide adjacent content.
My own personal definition of a 'popup' is ANYTHING that appears
over
already present display information that is not requested by the
user.
It really doesn't matter if it is advertisement, or not. If it
obscures
content, and is not requested, then it is a popup. It appears that
Firefox devs need to reassess the current state of such
distractions to
see if they can be prevented. This is just another of those 'arms
races' where advertisers, and others, seek to override the user's
preferences as to how they view content.
I visit a number of Web pages where the tooltip type of "popup"
happens
to be important.
Go to<http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/>. Hover your cursor over a tropical
storm. You will get a popup that provides a summary about that storm.
Currently, at<http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/index.shtml?epac>, the map
shows
a low-pressure area that is not yet a storm. The popup for that
low-pressure area provides an estimated probability of whether it
will
become a tropical storm.
Nice example of a "good" use of the function. Unfortunately, it is all
to often sorely abused.
Doesn't SM And Firefox both have pop-up blockers? and aren't they
already setup so you can white list legit Pop-ups such as for example
the weather websites.
Only item I woul love to permanent kill is the NetFlix ad opens every
time you open another website. I believe they have infiltrated the
various sites without knowledge of the website owner. For example cNet,
ZDnet, and Computerworld news. as long as your on the main page fine
(it
already has small ads which ignore). But as soon as I go to read an
article, bam!, up comes the NetFix ad, and the only way I can get
rid of
it, is use back arrow to go back one page. then it doesn't show up any
more that session.
In order to stop it it stops all Pop ups or pop overs . The way I'd
like to see it work. As soon as one of these things comes up, a message
would appear from SM or FF do you wish to ban forever the pop
up/popover. click yes/ or know the message would never show up
again. if
you answered yes it woul be permanently block if no, no action would be
taken.
The popup blocker in the Gecko-based browsers blocks actual popups,
which are separate pages. What I have been trying to describe are more
like tooltips within the page you are viewing.
Did you visit the National Hurricane Center pages I cited? If so, did
you hover your cursor over the storms shown on the maps?
I think the point is that the USER should be able to decide if he/she
wants these things obscuring what is being displayed, NOT the website
designer. I would like the ability to banish such popups, even if some
people find them helpful, should that suit my fancy.
Turn off javascript. At least on of the links David cited uses js to
create those "ballon" info pop-ups. Of course, you'll likely break other
aspects of the site navigation and experience but, hey, at least one
issue will be taken care of.
I am not into cutting off my nose to spite my face. So much of the
average webpage is JS that turning it off would defeat the purpose of
surfing the internet at all.
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