"Paul B. Gallagher" <[email protected]> wrote in message 
news:[email protected]...
> Desiree wrote:
>
>> "Paul B. Gallagher" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> message news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> Looks like Verdana to me, but I don't see "How it works" at all. I
>>> see:
>>
>> It doesn't use Verdana unless you have Fx or Sea Monkey configured to
>> use Verdana at all times.
>
> OK, on closer examination it seems to be using Calibri -- a somewhat 
> narrower sans-serif font. I don't have much of an eye for these 
> subtleties; I can read both of them fine.

That Calibri is very difficult for me to read. The letters are extremely 
thin and extremely close together. Plus look at the letter "g". I can't 
stand the way Calibri does that letter. That must be the font Google is 
using now for their favicon which is horrible and unreadable. Looks like the 
same "g". Look at "j". It is quite different too.
>
> Examination of the css file shows that there are some circumstances in 
> which Verdana would be used, but it's not really the focus of this issue.
>
>>>> It was suggested to me, on a Fx forum, that the problem I am
>>>> having there with all Mozilla browsers might be due to my not
>>>> allowing the website to download and use its font, but forcing it
>>>> to use Verdana. So, I changed temporarily in Preferences (and
>>>> Options in Fx) to allow websites to use their font of choice. It
>>>> made no difference regarding the login button I can't see. I
>>>> still couldn't see it and whatever font that is that Mozilla
>>>> downloads is terrible.
>
> Have you looked at your size preferences? If you set a minimum size that 
> is smaller than my minimum size, you may get something too small/thin for 
> you while I get something large/thick enough for me.

Minimum font size is 13. I had it bigger before I had cataract surgery and 
premium lens implants two years ago. This is on a 19" Dell Ultra Sharp LCD 
5:4 ratio at 1280x1024.
>
>>> The only problem I have with "Take the tour" is the color -- not
>>> enough contrast with the gray background. But that may just be my
>>> aging eyes.
>>
>> "Privacy" and "TOS" at the bottom, if you allow Mozilla to download
>> its font choice, is very faint...I almost cannot see either. Yet
>> both are clear and crisp using Verdana.
>
> Here, too, legibility is not an issue for me. The line
>
> ?? Identity Team ?? Mozilla ??????????? ? TOS ? ????? ??????? ?
>
> is perfectly clear.

That's interesting because for me and one other poster in this thread it is 
the Calibri font that makes that page hard to read.  The "H" in "How it 
Works" at the top right side is missing the horizontal cross bar and the 
left side vertical bar is extremely faint. That's just one example. Switch 
to Verdana and everything looks fine and is easy to read and nothing at the 
bottom is washed out looking.
>
> I can make it hard to read by doing CTRL-minus three times, but contrast 
> is not the issue with black type against a white background. Even "TOS," 
> in a non-bold light blue font, is legible for me.

But if you use Opera with Verdana there then "TOS" is bolded and is a much 
brighter blue. That Mozilla website looks great on Opera andlousy (with or 
without Verdana font) on Mozilla based browsers. That is what?  Funny? Sad? 
Stupid? I don't know which but definitely negative that Mozilla can't get 
their own site to look good, or work right, on their own browsers but looks 
great and works fine on Opera.
>
>>> If I mouse over the "Sign up" button, the key to the left of
>>> "Connect with Mozilla Persona..." slides into the lock, leaving
>>> only a little showing.
>>
>> That is how it is supposed to be with the key sliding into the lock
>> if you mouse over it...but I can't see any of that on Fx or
>> SeaMonkey.
>
> I suppose there must be some important difference in your configuration. 
> Have you enabled JavaScript?

Yes, Java Script is enabled. I'm wondering if it is some about:config tweak 
that I did ....but I can't think what one it could be.
>
> -- 
> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> --
> Paul B. Gallagher
> 


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