Le 9 mars 2011 10:42:42 +1100, Etienne Deleflie <[email protected]> a écrit :
> I also believe that the uni of York is the right place for > Ambisonia.com to be hosted. If York uni can take up the project then > I'll hand over the whole shabang, including the domain name. > > The only catch is that Python (and more specifically, Plone) expertise > is required, and that may pose a challenge to Dave and his team. Does > any one on this list have Python expertise? My day job is programming web sites in Python (specifically with the Django framework). I also have two years of experience with Plone. IMO, Django is a better platform than Plone; at first, Plone is easy to use for building simple web sites, because it comes with batteries included, but I found it fragile and difficult to maintain. If the only purpose of a web site is to host content, without much activity, then Plone is a valid choice, because it is a CMS. > I'm hesitant to pass the maintenance/ownership of the site over to > individuals because I fear that the site will ultimately just be > subject to the same problems... that is, a lack of resources. The Ambisonia community seems large enough, and there should be enough people interested in maintaining such a valuable resource. Like the PureData web site, also in Plone. It it hosted at IEM.at (IEM also host a Plone site for ambisonic standards). The PureData web site is maintained by few individuals that are not all working at IEM. > I also believe that a university is more likely to handle the content > responsibly and with respect to the original authors' chosen licenses. Because they would be legally responsible? Am I correct in assuming that most, if not all the licences used in Ambisonia are licenses for open access to the resources? In that case, all the site can do is specify the license for each item. What happens to the content after it has been downloaded is not something the university can manage; the users have the responsibility to respect the licenses of the authors. My fear, and I hope I'm wrong, is that York university would simply host the site as a favour, without committing resources that would be necessary to its upkeep. I believe that a web site maintained by its community would have a better chance to grow. Marc > Etienne > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Peter Lennox <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Actually, it would be fitting if it were to go to York, as that was > > where we first coined the name Ambisonia, in 1996. It referred to a > > mythical Duchy where magic rules, where astounding things were > > possible (even though the astounding things couldn't be brought out > > into the Mundane Lands). The portal to the Grand Duchy of Ambisonia > > was officially secret, but widely acknowledged to be through a > > metal cupboard in Dave Malham's room - you simply pulled the > > curtain of cables aside and nipped in. A key feature of Ambisonia > > (just like the Lion, Witch and Wardrobe) was that time moved at a > > different pace. So you'd go I to do a simple half-hour job - a bit > > of soldering to some B-format connectors - and when you came out, > > hours, or even days, had passed. For a big job such as building an > > analogue decoder, by the time you came out the season had changed > > and everybody was looking a little older. The Grand High Vizier and > > Ambisonic Ambassador to the Mundane Lands, Keeper of the Keys and > > Guardian of the Portal was, of course, His Splendid Fortuitousness, > > David Mal-ham I and a colleague - who can be identified as John > > Vaughan, as the entente between our lands becomes stronger, worked > > in a covert capacity, in an underground workshop producing > > Ambisonic-to-RealWorld connectors, enabling us to use Mundane > > technologies with Ambisonic ones, to provide tools for those > > dedicated agents who wished to surreptitiously promote trade > > between the Lands. Now that Ambisonic Technologies have been > > officially recognised (if not fully understood), it seems a good > > move to locate the Ambisonic resource in such a historic location > > Cheers > > > > > > Dr Peter Lennox > > School of Technology > > University of Derby, UK > > tel: 01332 593155 > > e: [email protected] > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Malham > > Sent: 08 March 2011 09:55 To: Surround Sound discussion group > > Subject: Re: [Sursound] Death of Ambisonia.com > > > > I must apologise to Etienne (and everyone else) - I had indicated > > to him that we at York would be interested in taking this on but > > for a number of reasons getting permission at this end has dragged > > on much longer than is good - entirely my fault ( I have had an > > even more chaotic year than usual....). Although I now have draft > > permissions for this, we need to sort out what happens when I > > retire, which is now just 18 months away (hooray!) otherwise > > ambisonia could be in the same state after that.... > > > > Dave > > > > On 08/03/2011 00:27, e deleflie wrote: > >> The ambisonia wiki can, and *should* be hosted somewhere else. This > >> should be relatively easy to transfer to whoever would like to take > >> it. Would have to be under a different domain name. > >> > >> The content can only be hosted somewhere else if the host reviews > >> all the license agreements with the uploaders. All content was > >> uploaded in the context of a legal relationship between > >> ambisonia.com and the author ... different authors chose different > >> licensing agreements ... and this needs to be respected. > >> > >> Etienne > >> > >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Martin Leese > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:35:45 +1100 > >>>> From: e deleflie<[email protected]> > >>>> Subject: Re: [Sursound] cross-talk cancellation used in binaural > >>>> sound ambisonia.com is down permanently. Apologies for any > >>>> inconvenience. There is a chance that Paul Hodges might host > >>>> some of Ambisonia's content on his servers. But it will be under > >>>> a different umbrella. > >>> I have resurrected the specifications for the > >>> ".amb" and ".uhj" file formats, and placed them > >>> on my website at: > >>> http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/Ambisonic/B-Format_file_format.html > >>> http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/Ambisonic/UHJ_file_format.html > >>> > >>> I am still tinkering with the HTML formatting, so > >>> please don't take copies. By all means link to > >>> them. > >>> > >>> I hope the content of the Ambisonia Wiki will > >>> be resurrected somewhere, as there are links > >>> to several pages in it from Wikipedia. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Martin > >>> -- > >>> Martin J Leese > >>> E-mail: martin.leese stanfordalumni.org > >>> Web: http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/ > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Sursound mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sursound mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound > > > > -- > > These are my own views and may or may not be shared by my employer > > /*********************************************************************/ > > /* Dave Malham > > http://music.york.ac.uk/staff/research/dave-malham/ */ /* Music > > Research Centre */ /* > > Department of Music "http://music.york.ac.uk/"; > > */ /* The University of York Phone 01904 432448 > > */ /* Heslington Fax 01904 432450 > > */ /* York YO10 5DD > > */ /* UK 'Ambisonics - Component > > Imaging for Audio' */ /* > > "http://www.york.ac.uk/inst/mustech/3d_audio/"; > > */ /*********************************************************************/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sursound mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and > > reserves the right to monitor email traffic. 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