assuming all six capsules have same gain, and all are contributing to W, how 
much should be the attenuation? umashankar

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 > Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 18:25:04 +0200
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Sursound] microphone epiphany ?
> 
> On 05/26/2012 04:51 PM, Augustine Leudar wrote:
> >> Hi Michael,
> >> thanks for the reply - there is no doubt Ive missed something !
> >> I am aware of the need for W coordinate and have included it in my encoder
> >> as instructed although I have to admit I am still not clear on its
> >> function  - but my question specifically relates to the information gained
> >> from the 3 fig of eight patterns gained form a mic design such as this one 
> >> :
> >>
> >> http://www.shapeways.com/model/143678/velan-140-internals.html
> >>
> >> Am I right in thinking the W component gives you enhanced distance
> >> information for a given sound source ?
> 
> we cannot hear absolute phase, so if you are listening to a figure of 
> eight microphone, there is no way to tell whether the sound you're 
> hearing was coming into the (positive) frontal lobe or the (inverted) 
> rear lobe. hence, the only information we can get from a lonely fig8 is 
> "it's obviously not coming from the side".
> 
> now if you add an omni to the equation, all of a sudden you have the 
> possibilty to discern between the two lobes of the fig8: one is in-phase 
> with the omni, the other isn't.
> 
> thus, the 0th order component helps you resolve the ambiguities of all 
> the 1st order signals.
> 
> btw, if you move to second order, the situation is the same: with a 
> cloverleaf directivity, you only know "it's either coming from 
> front-or-back, or from left-or-right". only with the first-order 
> information, the ambiguity can be resolved.
> 
> W also has a subtle role in distance coding, but its main job is really 
> to help us make sense of the fig8s.
> 
> 
> to wrap up, three real fig8s won't ever give you ambisonics. but if you 
> obtain the fig8s by subtracting two back-to-back cardioids, you can also 
> add them, which then gives you a nice omnidirectional component. note 
> that you will have to attenuate the resulting omni signal according to 
> the number of capsules you used.
> 
> 
> best,
> 
> 
> jörn
> 
> 
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