Actually, there is something here, though I do wonder if it is pathological. I've met people who told me that such-and-such a driving game was fantastically realistic. I found it stilted, leaden and profoundly unrealistic. I've even met people who, having 'virtually' driven a particular race track, upon actually driving it, were actually surprised that their lap performance in the real was inferior.
Of course, we do make good use of training simulators for pilots, and I presume (hope) they are very much more 'realistic'. However, what they are simulating is the cockpit of an aircraft which in itself constitutes a partially mediated environment Dr Peter Lennox School of Technology University of Derby, UK tel: 01332 593155 e: [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Malham Sent: 31 May 2012 11:19 To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] Catching the same fly twice (and a curious question) As I understand itt the researchers were saying was that this was not really the case, however, as I'm not a psychologist, I may well be wrong. For me, the point was that nobody (except perhaps those with some pre-existing mental problem) would have had this problem when playing Dungeon via a teleprinter on a PDP-11 (second computer game I ever played, first being noughts and crosses:-)), but with modern systems with near photo-realistic graphics, good sound, good physics, AI parsing and response engines, inertial feedback and all the rest it is becoming difficult to distinguish, especially if you are playing most of your waking life, as some are. Personally, I'd rather it was known as "Thirteenth Floor Syndrome" in honour of a way more sophisticated and intelligent cinematic exploration of the theme than those dreadful May-Tricks films, even though they did have far better CGI :-) Dave On 31/05/2012 10:38, Richard Dobson wrote: > On 31/05/2012 10:03, Dave Malham wrote: > .. >> Here, to any extent, I depart from Gibson. With sufficiently advanced >> technology there comes a point at which the effort required to suspend >> disbelief is so small as to be negligible. I was reading a report on a >> paper a few months ago (I think in New Scientist) where the authors were >> suggesting that some on-line gamers have difficult perceiving the "real >> world" as actually being real when they come out of the games. > > But surely that is more appropriately regarded as a pathological/delusional > mental state (and very > possibly a dangerous one), not a natural one representing some sort of > technological nirvana. > There is a world of difference between entertaining and even immersing in a > fantasy as such (as in > attending any Shakespeare play), and a delusion leading to possibly > dysfunctional behaviour in > "the real world". Shall we call this the "Matrix Syndrome"? > > Richard Dobson > > _______________________________________________ > Sursound mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- These are my own views and may or may not be shared by my employer /*********************************************************************/ /* Dave Malham http://music.york.ac.uk/staff/research/dave-malham/ */ /* Music Research Centre */ /* Department of Music "http://music.york.ac.uk/"; */ /* The University of York Phone 01904 322448 */ /* Heslington Fax 01904 322450 */ /* York YO10 5DD */ /* UK 'Ambisonics - Component Imaging for Audio' */ /* "http://www.york.ac.uk/inst/mustech/3d_audio/"; */ /*********************************************************************/ _______________________________________________ Sursound mailing list [email protected] https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound _____________________________________________________________________ The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic. If you believe this email was sent to you in error, please notify the sender and delete this email. Please direct any concerns to [email protected]. _______________________________________________ Sursound mailing list [email protected] https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
