aye I thought about that - the migrating notches and dips above 8khz -
still it must be a bit more complex than that in this case - I spent weeks
trying to emulate elevation effects with critical bands and other
techniques but never came close to anything like that effect....

On 7 August 2012 12:33, Peter Lennox <[email protected]> wrote:

> That sounds like critical bands; in the recording, you'd actually captured
> something that would appeal to pinnae effects, giving elevation cues you
> would not have expected to capture without binaural recording techniques.
> Some speakers also generate similar cues (if the frequency content is there
> in the source material), so that the soundstage has an upward 'bulge' in
> the middle, where HF signals seem to climb above the left-right soundstage.
> Waveguide technologies can sometimes be responsible.
> Cheers
> ppl
>
> Dr Peter Lennox
> School of Technology
> University of Derby, UK
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Augustine Leudar
> Sent: 07 August 2012 12:24
> To: [email protected]; Surround Sound discussion group
> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Can anyone explain this ?
>
> I personally think that these things can sometimes happen due to weird room
> reflections , resonances modes, the position of the television etc
> interacting weirdly with certain frequencies.
> I will never forget one of these events when I recorded bird sound. Played
> back on my crappy laptiop speakers the birds literally seemed to be
> localised over a metre and a half above the laptop. Whats more everyone
> could hear the same effect ! As it only worked on that laptop and I only
> had it in one position in the room I reached the conclusion it was some
> weiird reflection thing off the screen/room. I wish I could remmeber which
> recording it was ....
>
> On 7 August 2012 12:09, Richard Dobson <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> > Re odd things heard: is anyone here a regular watcher of "The Big Bang
> > Theory" show (E4, and on various cable channels)?  There is a standard
> > "sting" (a sort of semi-pitched noise cluster cum whoosh sort of thing,
> > little more than a second in length) used to transition from one scene to
> > the next.  My stereo TV (full HD but otherwise cheap 32" LCD type) is in
> > the corner of my lounge, and is in general not notable at all for
> > significant stereo effects, much less anything more "immersive".
> Obviously,
> > the built-in speakers (a generous 2 * 6W) are the typical small tinny
> > things.
> >
> > However, that sting, fleeting as it is, seems to produce a significant
> > amount of pseudo-surround, very much ~not~ localised to the TV, such that
> > every time it is really rather surprising. One day I will have to record
> > and analyse it, but I haven't got around to that yet. Does anyone have
> any
> > idea if this is just a random emergent feature of the sound (TV or room
> > artifact), or has that effect been designed into it in some discernible
> way?
> >
> >
> > Richard Dobson
> >
> > ..
> >
> >> sometimes (depending on content), the result will be surprising, but
> >> tricks like these tend to fail on arbitrary content.
> >>
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