On 26/02/2013, at 9:01 AM, etienne deleflie wrote: > Jorn, > > it turned out that this monster of a piece is unkillable, no matter what we >> tried. so this evil little bear of little brain but inexhaustible >> mischievousness folded it down to mono, out of pure spite. the sound was >> still all over the place. chowning 10, bear 0. >> >> and here's to fake doppler shifts. >> > > I'd say your observation, which I agree with, suggests that space can be > perceived through the identification of sound artefacts that act as > 'icons' (Peirce) or 'symbols' of our experience of space. In other words, > the realistic projection of spatial acoustic stimuli owes much of its > success to the fact that we recognise the effect of space on sound agreed. see my Space in sound: sound of space. Organised Sound Vol 3 No. 2 Cambridge University Press (1998) pp 93-99.
> ... and > accurate spatial projection is, in fact, not required to activate that > recognition (but supports it well, of course) > > Also, Chowning's Turenas makes extensive use of the relative relationship > between direct sound and reverberant sound, as a means to perceive > distance. He also uses a directional reverberation, for extremely far > sounds James Moorer wrote a now classic paper about this, which JC and his generation used extensively: http://www.music.mcgill.ca/~gary/courses/papers/Moorer-Reverb-CMJ-1979.pdf see also http://christianfloisand.wordpress.com/2012/10/18/algorithmic-reverbs-the-moorer-design/ David > ... where what is primarily heard is the reverberant field but it > comes from a specific direction. These may be as responsible, perhaps even > more so than Doppler, for acting as 'icons' of space. > > I like Peter's suggestion that Doppler is perhaps best seen as a cue of > something passing. Good cue for revealing if one has missed the bus! > > Etienne > > > -- >> Jörn Nettingsmeier >> Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 >> >> Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) >> Tonmeister VDT >> >> http://stackingdwarves.net >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Sursound mailing list >> Sursound@music.vt.edu >> https://mail.music.vt.edu/**mailman/listinfo/sursound<https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound> >> > > > > -- > http://etiennedeleflie.net > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20130226/15f7f641/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound _____________________________________________ Dr David Worrall Experimental Composer, Polymedia Adjunct Research Fellow, Australian National University david.worr...@anu.edu.au Board Member, International Community for Auditory Display Regional Editor, Organised Sound (CUP) IT Projects, Music Council of Australia worrall.avatar.com.au sonification.com.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20130226/f9ac1456/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
