> From:          "George Horvath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On 18 May 99, at 17:25, Mike Webb wrote:
> > Actually, I've had no problems with FDFormatted disks in my machine under
> > Windows 95. The problem is CREATING the format in that environment. Last
>.
> I'm quite surprised to learn that, and thus cannot agree with you.
> Win95 is well known to render FDFormatted floppies unreadable
> regularly. In my case, using FDRead, I was able to read and write
> FDformatted floppies in Win95, but on say two accesses out of five
> my floppy got junk. It was totally unreliable, and as such very
> annoying.

Well, I just did a test. I took one of my 1701K disks (81 tracks, 21
sectors), stuck it in my Dell running Win95 OSR2, copied files from my UTIL
directory until it was full, then did an FC A:*.* c:\util\*.* to compare and
all was fine.

Only problem I had was after I deleted the files on A: and then did a CHKDSK
on it. CHKDSK blew up and a simple DIR said it had 5 megs on it. When I tried
CHKDSK again, I checked the details as it blew up and found there was a
conflict with Norton Protection. I disabled it and it was just fine. Still
wouldn't FDFORMAT to 1701K, but if it was already formatted that way, no
problem. I even doublechecked my autoexec.bat to make sure that FDREAD, 800,
or some other utility wasn't loaded. Nada.

I can't speak to your report, but it would make sense to me that Win95 should
be able to read extended-format disks; it has to read DMF disks, right?

Of course, it could be the Dell BIOS, too. I've heard that some BIOSes can
read extended formats without the help of a TSR.

> > night I took a couple of copies of a 1.5M file home on 1701K disks I'd
> > formatted under DOS on another machine. Nothing special, didn't need FDREAD,
>
> Will you show me that special Win95, R U sure you didn't even
> need FDRead? Windows or DOS can't even touch floppies
> formatted with more than 18 sectors per track, you get a nasty
> error message, nothing else.

Let me clarify my last statement. I use FDREAD on my DOS/Win3x "utility
computer" where I do the formatting, but I don't on my Win95 PC.

So I'll have to leave my perspective where I see it; an FDFORMATted disk at
1701K on my Dell OptiPlex GX1, running Windows 95 OSR2, can be read and
written to just fine without a helper TSR. I just can't format such a disk in
the Win95 environment, so I'm still looking for a freeware extended disk
formatter that will work in the Win95 environment.

later on...

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