On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 10:35:29 -0500 (EST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Samuel to the rescue!!.... i think?
> On 2000-01-25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 10:52:51 +0500, karen lewellen wrote:
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>> I never used terminate for the purpose of viewing fax files. Any
>> graphics viewer capable of displaying TIF formatted images should
>> serve very well for this purpose.
> yes, but in dOS? forgive me if I seem to miss the point, but this factor is
> rather important for the speech.
Yes, there are many DOS programs capable of rendering and displaying TIF
formatted images, but here is a problem: There are several different types
of TIF images (also known as TIFF images in Windows) some of which might be
incompatible with some graphics file viewers capable of rendering TIF images.
If I have a graphics file having a four letter Windows extension of TIFF,
then I can simply rename the file giving it a three letter extension as TIF.
Then I can view the file with a DOS file viewer provided the file were
produced in a compatible TIF format.
> by way of example, my wordperfect sends and receives faxs just fine, but if
> i try to read them i get only silence from the speech. this is because as
> far as it is concerned, there is nothing there.
> OCR will translate these into something that an ocr device will at least
> read, but since i need to work with this information, would rather change it
> over to something like text. this way i could bring it up in wordperfect
> and edit away.
Perhaps you have tried to get your OCR device to read a raw fax file, which
appears as unintelligible data to the OCR. Raw fax files are typically
binary image files in TIF format. They must first be rendered by a graphics
viewer before your OCR can "translate" them into ascii. WordPerfect, version
5.1 and above, has a graphics mode. You will have to turn on graphics mode
in order to enable an OCR, or even a human, to read a fax.
Another possibility is that maybe there really wasn't anything there. If
the graphics viewer program attempts to render an image file that is not
in a compatible format, it might display just a blank screen.
> even an Ocr that worked from within the computer would work, if i could save
> the thing.
The WordPerfect software can save the fax, but only as a binary image file,
not as an ascii file. Here is one thing you will need to understand about
faxes: Your OCR will of course not be capable of "translating" such things
as company logos that frequently appear on faxes. The OCR can translate only
the textual information to ascii.
> Many desktop publishing programs
>> can display TIF images and most desktop publishing software has a
>> capability for "scaling" the image, i.e. enlarging or reducing the
>> image.
> but changing the image? if i cannot do this the image will be silent.
Silent images? They convey a most beautiful poetic concept to you.
In order to change the image for your purposes, it must be converted to
ascii in order for it to be processed by your speech machine. What is
needed is a program that can convert raw fax files to ascii. I do not
know if such programs exist. I will look into the documentation for my
TERMINATE program. Then I will get back to you.
<snip>
All the best,
Sam Heywood
P.S. ANYONE ON THE LIST WHO KNOWS ABOUT A PROGRAM THAT CAN CONVERT RAW FAX
FILES TO ASCII, PLEASE TELL KAREN ABOUT IT.
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