i know thi will look confusing but....
On 2000-01-25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>Cc: SURVPC LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 10:35:29 -0500 (EST), [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>wrote:
>> Samuel to the rescue!!.... i think?
>> On 2000-01-25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 10:52:51 +0500, karen lewellen wrote:
><snip>
>>> I never used terminate for the purpose of viewing fax files. Any
>>> graphics viewer capable of displaying TIF formatted images should
>>> serve very well for this purpose.
>> yes, but in dOS? forgive me if I seem to miss the point, but
>>this factor is rather important for the speech.
>Yes, there are many DOS programs capable of rendering and
>displaying TIF formatted images, but here is a problem: There are
>several different types of TIF images (also known as TIFF images in
>Windows) some of which might be incompatible with some graphics
>file viewers capable of rendering TIF images. If I have a graphics
>file having a four letter Windows extension of TIFF, then I can
>simply rename the file giving it a three letter extension as TIF.
>Then I can view the file with a DOS file viewer provided the file
>were produced in a compatible TIF format
actually, considering 99 percent of what i must work with istextual material
and coming form fairly standard sources, getting them to tiff should not be
the problem.
if i understand you corectly, a dos based desktop publishing program would
be able to convert these tiff images into asci?
>> by way of example, my wordperfect sends and receives faxs just
>>fine, but if i try to read them i get only silence from the
>>speech. this is because as far as it is concerned, there is
>>nothing there. OCR will translate these into something that an
>>ocr device will at least read, but since i need to work with this
>>information, would rather change it over to something like text.
>>this way i could bring it up in wordperfect and edit away.
>Perhaps you have tried to get your OCR device to read a raw fax
>file, which appears as unintelligible data to the OCR. Raw fax
>files are typically binary image files in TIF format. They must
>first be rendered by a graphics viewer before your OCR can
>"translate" them into ascii. WordPerfect, version 5.1 and above,
>has a graphics mode. You will have to turn on graphics mode in
>order to enable an OCR, or even a human, to read a fax.
i use wordperfect 6.0 and in graphics mode, the screen is silent. i do
understand what you man... i think. it must be in tiff format before using
the ocr to translate them into asci. ok, but where do i find the ocr
program? my stand alone device will read, but not translate into ascii,
because the file is too big for the machine memory. with a computer ased
ocr, however, the drive is the limit.
>Another possibility is that maybe there really wasn't anything
>there. If the graphics viewer program attempts to render an image
>file that is not in a compatible format, it might display just a
>blank screen.
>> even an Ocr that worked from within the computer would work, if i
>>could save the thing.
>The WordPerfect software can save the fax, but only as a binary
>image file, not as an ascii file. Here is one thing you will need
>to understand about faxes: Your OCR will of course not be capable
>of "translating" such things as company logos that frequently
>appear on faxes. The OCR can translate only the textual
>information to ascii.
i am not working with company logos, only need the text as in resumes and
such. even if i could get wordperfect to save the fax as a standard
wordperfect file, it would be great.
>> Many desktop publishing programs
>>> can display TIF images and most desktop publishing software has a
>>> capability for "scaling" the image, i.e. enlarging or reducing
>>>the image.
>> but changing the image? if i cannot do this the image will be
>silent.
>Silent images? They convey a most beautiful poetic concept to you.
>In order to change the image for your purposes, it must be
>converted to ascii in order for it to be processed by your speech
>machine. What is needed is a program that can convert raw fax
>files to ascii. I do not know if such programs exist. I will look
>into the documentation for my TERMINATE program. Then I will get
>back to you.
thanks so much, but given what is above it maynot be quite that hard. if a
dos-based graphics viewer is used before the ocr program can be used to
convert the file to asci, then i need first a dos bassed graphics viewer,
and then a ocr program for the computer that will convert the re-formated
file into asci. is this correct?
><snip>
>All the best,
>Sam Heywood
>P.S. ANYONE ON THE LIST WHO KNOWS ABOUT A PROGRAM THAT CAN CONVERT
>RAW FAX FILES TO ASCII, PLEASE TELL KAREN ABOUT IT.
>-- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet
>Client
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