Darn, hit send too soon...
OK, as we were saying...
"Boanne Lorraine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> }- The name of the pill is EDUCATION. Your short-sighted
> }- attitudes don't help a bit.
>
> Hahahahahahahahahaha! My experience is that the last thing the
> "point and drool" users of Windows want is to be educated about
> computers and software and how they work.
Eh, do you really care how your washing machine works? Bank ATM? Car's
ignition? (Some folks do, and God bless 'em, I'm glad they do.) If you
don't, does that make you a drooling idiot? Knowing a guy who did early ATM
design work, it does of course, but you know what I mean...
> I have even had
> Windows users tell me this. They don't care anything about being
> educated or understanding their machine or OS, all they care
> about is what it can do for them - and of course they are the
> first ones to holler when something goes wrong.
Ah, so are those the Windows users ("them") with the little Microsoft
patches sewn to their clothing? Or can you just pick them out of a crowd?
You know, they're not quite as intelligent as the rest of us. Good thing
they work cheap. They sure do talk funny though. And that MUSIC that they
listen to! Hope they don't move into MY neighborhood.
I'm a "Windows User". Can you tell by the shape of my head? The line of my
brow? I really have to ask how someone can group thousands upon thousands of
individuals into a simple "them" so easily.
> [...] I long for the days
> when one needed some intellectual rocks in ones pockets to use a
> computer.
Hey, that's why some folks work at racetrack pits instead of Sears
automotive. Nothing wrong with that.
> If "mom can't do it" mom has no business there.
"Mom can do it" was my line, used in explaining that Linux/OSF and Open
Source software -- while wonderful and among the tools I use daily -- isn't
in the mainstream (yet). This was in the context of discussing why a
prevalent OS was hit, and why it doesn't mean others aren't equally
vulnerable. (Oh yeah, context!)
> Since we are using the old cars and driving analogy: three-year-olds
> have no business driving! They can't reach the peddles or see
> out the windsheild!
[I think a three year old in a car with "peddles" is OK myself.]
Do you work on your car? Do you tune it up? Rotate the tires? Or are you a
drooling end-user who can reach the pedals, simply dumps gas in it once in a
while and manages to bring it in for an oil change every six months or so,
whining about how much it costs and asking how long maintenance can be
deferred? The analogy isn't all that bad: Are the thousands of folks you see
driving around in cars everyday drooling morons because they can't be
bothered to understand the inner workings of the very vehicles which they
depend on for their very safety? Well, sure they are. Especially that weasel
that cut you off a few miles back.
How appropriate the analogy though: EVERYONE else on the road is a complete
moron, until you actually step out of your car and bump into them
face-to-face. EVERYONE on the other side of the computer screen surely is
too!
> As far as I'm concerned the Survive PC list IS NOT an appropriate
> place for such discussions. Period. There are plenty and more
> than plenty of Windows lists out there.
OK. Some think it is. Good thing the ol' delete key still works, eh? Jeezus
christ, some folks don't even understand how to set up a hard drive. I get
pretty tired of their whining and moaning here too, y'know. RTFM! Shall we
vote on "good" topics?
> [...]
> Hmmmmm. She said the magic word, didn't she? Idiots! And how
> much work will they be getting done while their computers are
> disabled by a virus, ILOVEYOU or otherwise?
About as many as the number of DOS users that could work on their machines
after Ripper worked its magic a few years ago. Of course it trashed files
incrementally over an extended period and usually wasn't detected until it
had damaged several generations of backup... Ah yes. DOS user's didn't
"deserve" it though.
> There is a price to dumbing something down so much that an idiot
> can use it and letting three-year-olds drive.
Yeah, roads get built. People can move out of their in-bred, back-woods
communities. It suddenly becomes possible to get work outside of walking
distance. Hell, you might even be able to get away on the weekends. Or
should only the automotive Engineers have the keys? It would make parking
easier.
One thing I'd like to ask everyone to keep in mind as we meander through all
the sub-plots in these threads: The writers of a computer virus are in no
way heroes. While I may not agree with everyone on this list, I certainly
don't wish them the frustration of seeing hours, days or months worth of
productive work go down the toilet. I would hope that anyone that works hard
to develop a web page, manuscript, research the web or simply chat once in a
while can understand the frustration of someone arbitrarily screwing up
their tools.
- Bob
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