On 2000-09-02 [EMAIL PROTECTED] <Or Botton> said:

   >I dont find anything wrong with new technology.

   >There are only two things that I find annoying in the current
   >sceniero:

   >1)Once a new thing is developed, the previous one is concidered
   >"useless". This is natrual, but in the computer world this is
   >happening way too fast. If I bought a system, and, lets say, after
   >5 6 years I should replace it, it may be ok. But every year? Its
   >stupid. And even if you dont want to replace it, you have to.

   >2)Most of the current developments seems to go on making the PC into
   >something weird it wasnt really designed to be the first place:
   >A user friendly game machine. Its kinda weird.

My sentiments, exactly.  Will it every stop?  My hope is that in
places like this list, after enough frustrated people say things
have gone to far and they're burned out with it -- finally, we'll
begin to see a trend of thought that will involve a re-examination
of what has happened and what we *really* should expect of computers.

   >Regarding the original topic, I was just trying to think about the
   >(totally theoritical that will never exist) DOS, that would be
   >redesigned from scratch and allow things that the current DOS
   >doesnt, yet remain as easy to use yet versatile as the current one.
   >("no 640k barrier, multithreading, multitasking" you know, that
   >optimum DOS that would never exist, since nobody will bother to
   >create.) Its because most people view it as only an "OS for oldies"
   >isntead of a general specific OS, which is bullshit since DOS is
   >running simply great on my 350, and i've seen it running even
   >better on even better machines. I just wish there could be a brand
   >that could exploit the new machines even better.

I understand, Or.  But I'm afraid that the "new OS" fitting your
description is Linux.  It attempts to build a bridge between the old
and new machines -- although the machines I'm enjoying the most, at
this time, are still underpowered for it.  For machines with less than
a 386, CPUs running at 10 or fewer MHz, less than one MB of RAM, no
hard drive (just floppy drives) or with hard drives between 10 and 30
MBs, PC DOS 3.3 seems adequate.  These are certainly not multimedia
machines (however, I do have a program that plays WAV files nicely
through my PC AT speaker with only a 286, 8 MHz CPU and 512k RAM), but
I rarely find a use for multimedia.

New home computers are now being designed for Windows, a few others
for Linux, some networking machines, others not.  They are distancing
themselves from DOS more and more.  Those of us who prefer DOS (with
or without multimedia/multitasking tastes or needs) are treated as
an unprofitable minority.  As Yolanda pointed out, most people are
screaming for the glitzy, popular multimedia features.  Companies
that manufacture computers don't want to lose business, so they
continue to make machines that sell, whether those machines are
practical or not.

Personally, I think the best strategy for SURVPC types like us is
to boycott the new machines, continue salvaging the oldest, most
despised computers and stuff them with all the great DOS software
we can find and offer them for little or nothing -- especially with
software that can open their eyes to what can be done with the
Internet using DOS with extremely low resources.  *THEN*... if
that effort gets enough attention, you might see your wish come
true, and *maybe* someone will try their hand at expanding the
use of DOS for more powerful machines.

Don't expect miracles.  It could take quite a few years to happen.

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